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donnajo
02-03-2008, 05:43 PM
So, I was thinking. Imagine that. Anyway, I am NASM certified and am working on NSCA CPT cert right now. NASM goes into corrective and assessment a lot and I feel it will be a great combo with my NSCA knowledge.
Here are my questions.
1) Do you assess and incorporate more corrective stretches and exercises in the beginning of your clients program or do you think it is not necessary as the exercises would and should take care of that in doing them correctly themselves?
2) I was thinking this because I kind of have a question for Erik. Do you assess and how do you as an online trainer assess someone and give them corrective stuff or do you feel that the stretches and exercises done correctly as I asked above will take care of any problems.
3) Or can it be both depending on the problem or issues a client has. Be it a tight or shortened or lenghtened muscle, an injury that has created compensation or imbalance, postural issues, weakness etc. ?
4) Or is donnajo a crackhead and overthinking? :D
donnajo
02-03-2008, 06:43 PM
:bump: This is bothering me. I need answers people.
#3 for sure.
A thorough assessment will reveal whether special corrective exercises are necessary. When working with a new trainee, try to keep things as simple as possible. In other words, stick to performing the basics properly. If you discover imbalances or issues that the basics cannot address, introduce some corrective movements.
KaPow
02-06-2008, 04:49 AM
So, I was thinking. Imagine that. Anyway, I am NASM certified and am working on NSCA CPT cert right now. NASM goes into corrective and assessment a lot and I feel it will be a great combo with my NSCA knowledge.
Here are my questions.
1) Do you assess and incorporate more corrective stretches and exercises in the beginning of your clients program or do you think it is not necessary as the exercises would and should take care of that in doing them correctly themselves?
2) I was thinking this because I kind of have a question for Erik. Do you assess and how do you as an online trainer assess someone and give them corrective stuff or do you feel that the stretches and exercises done correctly as I asked above will take care of any problems.
3) Or can it be both depending on the problem or issues a client has. Be it a tight or shortened or lenghtened muscle, an injury that has created compensation or imbalance, postural issues, weakness etc. ?
4) Or is donnajo a crackhead and overthinking? :D
I sure hope that you have had some PM responses to your questions-72 views and one answer is pretty sad...:headshake:
First off if you are not assessing you are guessing, so I would be interested in hearing the screening process for your second question also. Corrective stretching is very important as well as specific exercise design for every client to allow for postural imbalances. Biomechanically everyone is different.
You are definately not overthinking, it is a good asset to have in an industry which lacks in that department:wink:
donnajo
02-06-2008, 05:39 AM
I sure hope that you have had some PM responses to your questions-72 views and one answer is pretty sad...:headshake:
First off if you are not assessing you are guessing, so I would be interested in hearing the screening process for your second question also. Corrective stretching is very important as well as specific exercise design for every client to allow for postural imbalances. Biomechanically everyone is different.
You are definately not overthinking, it is a good asset to have in an industry which lacks in that department:wink:
:clap: Exactly I take this seriously. There is such a lack of that. I am amazed at the lack of response. I did not get any Pm's . Tony was the only response. And that is a concern of mine.
:clap: Exactly I take this seriously. There is such a lack of that. I am amazed at the lack of response. I did not get any Pm's . Tony was the only response. And that is a concern of mine.
Are there that many PT's on this board??
donnajo
02-06-2008, 12:25 PM
Are there that many PT's on this board??
I guess not. True. :lol3: My bad. :oops: I thought it was a good topic.
Sarawithanh
02-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Are there that many PT's on this board??
No but given that Erik (or Noel) had the time to ban me from the journals section, I would think one of them would have been gracious enough to answer Donnas question she so politely asked..
Fitwolf
02-06-2008, 02:22 PM
I'm interested in people's thoughts... but I don't really know. IT does seem very individual...
donnajo
02-06-2008, 02:24 PM
No but given that Erik (or Noel) had the time to ban me from the journals section, I would think one of them would have been gracious enough to answer Donnas question she so politely asked..
The thread probably got lost in the shuffle of a bunch of other threads because I posted it a while ago. It just got brought back up today or yesterday so maybe they did not see it. No big deal. That happens.
It is individual, this is also a FREE board that ppl come to freely with no obligation to post anything if they don't want to without being called out.
Sarah I'm not sure why you come in here just to cause friction and stir up trouble. It really puzzles me
donnajo
02-06-2008, 02:59 PM
It is individual, this is also a FREE board that ppl come to freely with no obligation to post anything if they don't want to without being called out.
:yeahthat: Lets not make things there that aren't. Erik and Noel are always helpful with responses. The thread just got overlooked. No one is perfect and can see everything. On top of the fact that they are not obligated to answer if they don't want to. I nor anyone else expects that.
:clap: Exactly I take this seriously. There is such a lack of that. I am amazed at the lack of response. I did not get any Pm's . Tony was the only response. And that is a concern of mine.
Sorry Donna I must have misunderstood this then. I apologize
donnajo
02-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Sorry Donna I must have misunderstood this then. I apologize
:dope::oops: Very poorly worded. The last sentence about concern was meant to say I am concerned about learning more about assessment. I am a horrible writer I tell ya. I take what I am learning about seriously not that no one responded.
The lack of response was because I did not realize there is not a lot of PT's on this board. Which Ali pointed out.
I am really sleep deprived.
Noel Clark
02-06-2008, 05:07 PM
DJ I think this is a great topic actually.
I think that nothing beats seeing someone in person...but not being able to do that there are other avenues that can help. A lot of times when you see a picture of someone, you can tell if there shoulders are rounded...that can guide you that there is an imbalance ...a need for more upper back strength (just an example)
Also, knowing their history helps as well. I know that Erik is in direct contact with many clients Chiro/ART docs and that way he can change their programs to help deal with whatever issues that they are having as well.
also I am sure that you have read some stuff by Gray Cook...He talks about Assessment as well. Here is a good link too http://www.tombrookspt.com/fasttrack/fasttrack/assessment.html or
http://www.performbetter.com/detail.aspx_Q_ID_E_4669_A_CategoryID_E_405
I think having a good relationship with the client is important to so that you can communicate issues that you are having with your lifts. Video can be very helpful as you have seen on here..just by watching someone do their lift.
I am not if this is what you are after, but hopefully this can help some :shrug:
donnajo
02-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Yes, Noel, thanks for the links. That is what I am asking about. I just want to get a better understanding of that aspect of training.
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