Dairy = bad for you?

[FitnessModerate]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet#Restricted_foods

Basically the point being that casein is horrible for the body. I don't know, I've been eating full-fat dairy for at least a month now without any ill effects. In moderation of course. I just can't believe these all or nothing diets.

[donnajo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleolithic_diet#Restricted_foods

Basically the point being that casein is horrible for the body. I don't know, I've been eating full-fat dairy for at least a month now without any ill effects. In moderation of course. I just can't believe these all or nothing diets.

Honostly. It is what works for you. I truly think you individualize your diet to yourself. Too many rules are BS. Figure out your calories, protein and I am assuming you train.Add cardio as you need. But diet is truly what will make the difference. Some people have issues with dairy and some don't. Just take everything with a grain of salt and figure what works for you. If you think dairy is a problem then omit it bring it back in and decide from there.

[FitnessModerate]

Honostly. It is what works for you. I truly think you individualize your diet to yourself. Too many rules are BS. Figure out your calories, protein and I am assuming you train.Add cardio as you need. But diet is truly what will make the difference. Some people have issues with dairy and some don't. Just take everything with a grain of salt and figure what works for you. If you think dairy is a problem then omit it bring it back in and decide from there.

Well I'm glad I don't have lactose intolerance. I agree everyone has to figure out exactly what works for them and take those "plans" with a grain of salt. I do train 6 days a week, usually 2 or 3 HIIT cardio sessions, 3 or 4 weight lifting sessions. All in moderation of course, except when I'm in a set or doing an all out sprint.

[donnajo]

Well I'm glad I don't have lactose intolerance. I agree everyone has to figure out exactly what works for them and take those "plans" with a grain of salt. I do train 6 days a week, usually 2 or 3 HIIT cardio sessions, 3 or 4 weight lifting sessions. All in moderation of course, except when I'm in a set or doing an all out sprint.


That does not make sense what you said if you don't mind me saying. The first part does but "when I'm in a set or doing an all out sprint". Your training should match your goals. Also, how do you know you don't have lactose intolreance? What is your workout schedule and what are your goals? No one can answer without knowing that.

[FitnessModerate]

Well I asume I'm lactose tolerant because I don't have any bad reactions to dairy. Occasional bloating if I drink an entire glass of milk, but nothing serious.

Usually I do 2-3 days in a row of compound weight lifting, barbells and dumbbells. Deadlift, squat, lunges, bicep curls, tricep pulldowns, compound row, shoulder press, incline press, asssisted pull up, asssisted dip, calve raises, delt raises.

On separate days from those, I do a 20 minute HIIT on the elliptical. Usually manage 6-7 30 second sprints in that.

Def incorporate a rest day, whether I've done 7-10 days in a row of weights/HIIT sessions.

Diet is usually 40% protein, 40% fat, 20% carbs, around 1700 calories per day. I try to consume 100g of protein a day, but that's hard.

Weight: 132lbs, Fat % ~14.5(using Navy method, wish I had my personal MRI machine...)

[Inatic]

Most of us eat dairy at night before bed for its slow release protein qualities.

Your diet is set up with macro ratios which arent as effective, Erik has a good post on the on his website.
http://leanbodiesconsulting.com/best-macronutrient-breakdown-for-fat-loss.htm

you appear to be overtraining/not enough rest and not eating enough protein. More is not better. Your going to burn out or get hurt from over use.

Can you describe your training using those exercises with sets/rest ranges?

[GraceGirl]

Dairy is great for you! I eat at least 1/2 gallon of ice cream a day, and nope, no probs. (BTW, what are these bulges developing on my hips?!) :lol:

[FitnessModerate]

Dairy is great for you! I eat at least 1/2 gallon of ice cream a day, and nope, no probs. (BTW, what are these bulges developing on my hips?!) :lol:

But what about the sugar content?

[Erik]

Unless you have some kind of intolerance to lactose and its subsequent digestion, dairy is fine.

[FitnessModerate]

No, no problems in that area. *knock on wood*, just trying to ignore the scare tactics of certain web sites. Erik, have you read Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories"? It's an awesome read.

[Erik]

No, no problems in that area. *knock on wood*, just trying to ignore the scare tactics of certain web sites. Erik, have you read Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories"? It's an awesome read.

No, I keep meaning to, but I'm behind on my reading. It's on my short To Do list.

[donnajo]

No, no problems in that area. *knock on wood*, just trying to ignore the scare tactics of certain web sites. Erik, have you read Gary Taubes "Good Calories, Bad Calories"? It's an awesome read.



So what is the gist of the book? curious.:popcorn:

[FitnessModerate]

So what is the gist of the book? curious.:popcorn:

From Publishers Weekly
Starred Review. Taubes's eye-opening challenge to widely accepted ideas on nutrition and weight loss is as provocative as was his 2001 NewYork Times Magazine article, What if It's All a Big Fat Lie? Taubes (Bad Science), a writer for Science magazine, begins by showing how public health data has been misinterpreted to mark dietary fat and cholesterol as the primary causes of coronary heart disease. Deeper examination, he says, shows that heart disease and other diseases of civilization appear to result from increased consumption of refined carbohydrates: sugar, white flour and white rice. When researcher John Yudkin announced these results in the 1950s, however, he was drowned out by the conventional wisdom. Taubes cites clinical evidence showing that elevated triglyceride levels, rather than high total cholesterol, are associated with increased risk of heart disease-but measuring triglycerides is more difficult than measuring cholesterol. Taubes says that the current U.S. obesity epidemic actually consists of a very small increase in the average body mass index. Taube's arguments are lucid and well supported by lengthy notes and bibliography. His call for dietary advice that is based on rigorous science, not century-old preconceptions about the penalties of gluttony and sloth is bound to be echoed loudly by many readers. Illus. (Oct. 2)
Copyright © Reed Business Information, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

The basic point being that all the hysteria about dietary fat the last 40 years was a big lie. Also that the FDA pushed carbs is what caused the obesity epidemic. In addition, the power-that-be pushed margarine and vegetable oils filled with trans-fat because it had less saturated fat then butter. Just goes to show that they really didn't know what they were talking about. The FDA food pyramid is poison.

[CCMAK5]

No, I keep meaning to, but I'm behind on my reading. It's on my short To Do list.


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