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FitnessModerate
03-02-2008, 07:42 AM
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/baseline-diet-02.htm

This guy says that 12 calories/lb is needed for bodyweight. For me that's 12x132=1580 per day. I've been consuming ~1700 per day, so I guess that's why I'm not noticing rapid fat loss.

Also, what about the zig-zag approach of going real low some days and then above maintenance level the next day?

donnajo
03-02-2008, 10:46 AM
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/baseline-diet-02.htm

This guy says that 12 calories/lb is needed for bodyweight. For me that's 12x132=1580 per day. I've been consuming ~1700 per day, so I guess that's why I'm not noticing rapid fat loss.

Also, what about the zig-zag approach of going real low some days and then above maintenance level the next day?

The general rule is to start at BWx12 for fat loss and go from there.


If you knew your actual maintenance then you could cut it by 10 to 20% which would be more accurate. The BWx12 is a general rule of thumb.

You are talking about calorie cycling and many of us do that. Low days are non training days and high days and medium days are training days. Just do a search and check the stickies for different ways to implement it.

But if you are just starting I would keep it simple before calorie cycling (carb cycling). Just do BWx12, get 1 to 1.5 grams of protien for BW, get in your fish oils, and make up the rest with fats and carbs. Adjust as you lose weight and then maybe go to calorie cycling as you get leaner.

Noel Clark
03-02-2008, 11:06 AM
http://www.thinkmuscle.com/articles/mcdonald/baseline-diet-02.htm

This guy says that 12 calories/lb is needed for bodyweight. For me that's 12x132=1580 per day. I've been consuming ~1700 per day, so I guess that's why I'm not noticing rapid fat loss.

Also, what about the zig-zag approach of going real low some days and then above maintenance level the next day?

I like what DJ said. You could also play around with the amounts of Carb vs fats you have on training and non-training.

donnajo
03-02-2008, 11:18 AM
I like what DJ said. You could also play around with the amounts of Carb vs fats you have on training and non-training.

Yeah, I do that.:yeahthat: I am just dieting regular getting my protein and fish oils and training days carbs are a bit higher and fats lower and then vice versa on non training days.

FitnessModerate
03-02-2008, 07:38 PM
Thanks!

bootygalore
03-03-2008, 12:12 AM
here's a question. some days I work out two times a day (not lately b/c Ive been feeling so horrible and tired, but hopefully again soon).. should one consume more calories depending upon activity level? Also, I just think that "formula" is to vague.. during the week I sit on my butt all day doing a desk job, and they only exercise I really get is working out. Yet on the weekends Im usually more active just doing this and that, and working out. So.... I would think I should eat less calories MON-FRI than I do SAT + SUN...

Fitwolf
03-03-2008, 12:15 AM
Booty, are you trying to lose weight or maintain?

The formula is a place to start. Then you have to monitor yourself and make adustments as necessary... after two weeks if you are losing too fast, up the cals some, or vice versa...

bootygalore
03-03-2008, 01:38 AM
Im trying to lose weight, however Ive got a thyroid issue Im battling right now, but yeah, in perfect conditions, weight loss (fat loss) is what Im going for.

Noel Clark
03-03-2008, 01:42 AM
Im trying to lose weight, however Ive got a thyroid issue Im battling right now, but yeah, in perfect conditions, weight loss (fat loss) is what Im going for.

You can cycle your calories as you see fit...but for you-obviously you need to get your thryoid issues under control first and foremost. But in 'perfect' conditions, the goal is to create a deficit. Less in, more out...fatloss. :)