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curvyone
05-24-2006, 02:52 PM
Does anyone know of any good/ reputable online courses to get my PT certification? I want to start training on a part-time basis right now.

Brandi
05-24-2006, 02:54 PM
NSCA is where my stuff is from. I have the textbook and some other things. I think they have online courses... but they might just be the continuing education type.

curvyone
05-24-2006, 03:05 PM
I will Google NSCA and check it out. I am a busy working mom of three so I don't have the time to go to classes.

Erik
05-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by curvyone@May 24 2006, 11:05 AM
I will Google NSCA and check it out. I am a busy working mom of three so I don't have the time to go to classes.
You get the materials, study and then go sit somewhere - tyipcally a local univeristy - for the exam.

curvyone
05-24-2006, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 24 2006, 01:11 PM
You get the materials, study and then go sit somewhere - tyipcally a local univeristy - for the exam.
Thunder, what is the general timeframe for me to be ready for the exam. I know this depends on many factors( time spent studying, level of knowledge, being able to grasp large amounts of new concepts/ info etc)

p-funk
05-24-2006, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by curvyone@May 24 2006, 02:17 PM
Thunder, what is the general timeframe for me to be ready for the exam. I know this depends on many factors( time spent studying, level of knowledge, being able to grasp large amounts of new concepts/ info etc)
I would say, give yourself 3-4 months to study up for it.

NSCA-CPT is good.

NSCA-CSCS is good if you are going to be working with athletes. Not that you can't apply the stuff to regular people but there are chapters devoted to things like intense plyometrics, sprint training, etc...more sport specific things.

NASM-CPT is pretty good too. I don't particulary like the program design. But, the book is a pretty good read.

curvyone
05-24-2006, 07:24 PM
Thanks a bunch Thunder, I will be ordering my materials this weekend.

p-funk
05-24-2006, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by curvyone@May 24 2006, 02:24 PM
Thanks a bunch Thunder, I will be ordering my materials this weekend.
I'm not thunder....haha :lol:

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 07:33 PM
I don't think half the girls here even read the name. They just assume we're Thunder.

MichelleS
05-24-2006, 07:42 PM
no I can tell you all apart. :p

I did mine through ISSA and got to the part where I have write my essays and then I did 2 and then didn't do anymore :cheeky: I hate writing :sad:


I'm also a mom of two and it took me from sept-jan to read the book but them I have just been putting it off I shouldreally finish. :suicide:

Blondell
05-24-2006, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by mmspencer24@May 24 2006, 03:42 PM
no I can tell you all apart. :p


me, too :D

That means we are in the "good" half :lol:

Erik
05-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by curvyone@May 24 2006, 03:17 PM
Thunder, what is the general timeframe for me to be ready for the exam. I know this depends on many factors( time spent studying, level of knowledge, being able to grasp large amounts of new concepts/ info etc)
Exactly ....

Erik
05-24-2006, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 03:33 PM
I don't think half the girls here even read the name. They just assume we're Thunder.
:lol: :lol:

Pandora
05-24-2006, 08:30 PM
I'm NASM certified.

I hated the book, the info, and the test. And I don't use the OPT system at all, even for myself. And I paid a LOT for it because it was marketable. I don't even personal train anymore... lol.

I have all the materials for the NSCA, but I doubt I'll take the test. Why bother? At this point, I'm continuing to learn ONLY for my own benefit. I'll never work in a gym again. Blech.

Brandi
05-24-2006, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 12:33 PM
I don't think half the girls here even read the name. They just assume we're Thunder.
I just look at the pictures. I don't know any of your names.

curvyone
05-25-2006, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by p-funk@May 24 2006, 02:31 PM
I'm not thunder....haha :lol:
Damn I'm was reading so fast I did not even notice that. Sorry P-Funk. :lol: :lol:

curvyone
05-25-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Brandi@May 24 2006, 04:47 PM
I just look at the pictures. I don't know any of your names.
The pictures are way more interesting. :lol:

Blondell
05-29-2006, 05:53 PM
Which would be a better choice--ACSM or NSCA?

PowerManDL
05-29-2006, 05:55 PM
I lean towards NSCA. But both are good.

ACSM requires a related college degree for their good ones.

Angelkae
05-31-2006, 02:43 PM
Is ACSM accredited? I didn't see them on the NCCA website.

I only saw ACE, NFPT, and NSCA. Anyone have comments on any of these?

Pandora
05-31-2006, 04:23 PM
NASM is accredited.

Angelkae
05-31-2006, 04:44 PM
Thanks Pandora.

So, not that I'm not willing to research it myself, but does has anyone looked into which of the accredited PT certifications is the least expensive?

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 06:02 PM
In case anyone's interested, this is what I've come up with...

ACE (American Council on Exercise- NCCA Accredited)- Total fees range from $869.85 to $1119.85 ($149.95 to $399.95 for your choice of study guides, $299.95 for 2-day practicals, $219.95 for 2-day exam prep, $200.00 for exam). Cost verified in email.

NASM (National Academy of Sports Medicine- NCCA Accredited)- Total package is $499 to $649. Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

NSCA (National Strength and Conditioning Association- NCCA Accredited)- Total cost is $609.95 (Exam Cost is $380, materials cost is $229.95 for CPT Study package). Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

NCSF (National Council on Strength and Fitness- NCCA Accredited)- total cost is $498 ($299 for the home study course and $199 for the exam). Cost verified in email.

NFPT (National Federation of Personal Trainers- NCCA Accredited)- It appears that the total cost is $425, and the recertifications for future years are flexible so that's a plus (no travel required). Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

ACSM (American College of Sports Medicine- NOT accredited)- Total fees range from $500.00 to $730.00 (either the 1-day workshop-$129 or the 3-day workshop-$359 and the study materials-$112 and the Certification Exam-$259). Cost verified via email.

I'll update as emails are recieved.

fitmommy
06-01-2006, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by Angelkae@Jun 1 2006, 01:02 PM
In case anyone's interested, this is what I've come up with...

ACE (American Council on Exercise- NCCA Accredited)- Total fees range from $869.85 to $1119.85 ($149.95 to $399.95 for your choice of study guides, $299.95 for 2-day practicals, $219.95 for 2-day exam prep, $200.00 for exam). Cost verified in email.

NASM (National Academy of Sports Medicine- NCCA Accredited)- Total package is $499 to $649. Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

NCSA (National Strength and Conditioning Association- NCCA Accredited)- Total cost is $609.95 (Exam Cost is $380, materials cost is $229.95 for CPT Study package). Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

NCSF (National Council on Strength and Fitness- NCCA Accredited)- total cost is $498 ($299 for the home study course and $199 for the exam). Cost verified in email.

NFPT (National Federation of Personal Trainers- NCCA Accredited)- It appears that the total cost is $425, and the recertifications for future years are flexible so that's a plus (no travel required). Still waiting for email confirmation of costs.

ACSM (American College of Sports Medicine- NOT accredited)- Total fees range from $500.00 to $730.00 (either the 1-day workshop-$129 or the 3-day workshop-$359 and the study materials-$112 and the Certification Exam-$259). Cost verified via email.

I'll update as emails are recieved.
Thankyou for that info. I wanted to look into getting a cert too. Career change/somthing to do when my son goes to school in a couple yrs. I am learning to love the fitness lifestyle and want to "pass it on" :p

How would you take the final exam if you study at home?

I know ACE has schedualed exams in some city's, my city in november. But it is more expensive than I can handle right now. Plus, I know ACE has a bad rep.

Hopefully others work the same way. I live in San Antonio, not the 1st city to be on lists of courses or tests. I really don't want to travel to test.

... I'm rambling again :blah:

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by fitmommy@Jun 1 2006, 01:55 PM
Thankyou for that info. I wanted to look into getting a cert too. Career change/somthing to do when my son goes to school in a couple yrs. I am learning to love the fitness lifestyle and want to "pass it on" :p

How would you take the final exam if you study at home?

I know ACE has schedualed exams in some city's, my city in november. But it is more expensive than I can handle right now. Plus, I know ACE has a bad rep.

Hopefully others work the same way. I live in San Antonio, not the 1st city to be on lists of courses or tests. I really don't want to travel to test.

... I'm rambling again :blah:
For most of them, you have to go to a "testing site" such as a university. The locations are always predetermined. Some have set dates, some have flexible dates. It just depends on which certification you are doing. They are all a fair distance from me, so I didn't worry too much about it because no matter what I will be taking a little trip.

Erik
06-01-2006, 07:35 PM
Get the NSCA one.

Diana
06-01-2006, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 1 2006, 07:35 PM
Get the NSCA one.
I am ISSA and NSCA certified...I really like NASM too and am studying for that cert.

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 1 2006, 02:35 PM
Get the NSCA one.
Thanks for the advice. :) :) :)

Did you do NSCA?

Erik
06-01-2006, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Angelkae@Jun 1 2006, 03:50 PM
Thanks for the advice. :) :) :)

Did you do NSCA?
I have the CSCS.

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Thunder+Jun 1 2006, 02:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ Jun 1 2006, 02:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Angelkae@Jun 1 2006, 03:50 PM
Thanks for the advice. :) :) :)

Did you do NSCA?
I have the CSCS. [/b][/quote]
Cool. Thanks&#33; :D :D :D

3KO
06-01-2006, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 1 2006, 02:35 PM
Get the NSCA one.
Great thread&#33; I&#39;m looking into this too. Can you say why this is the one you recommend getting?

Pandora
06-01-2006, 08:54 PM
Actually, the ACE test is REALLY Easy and you probably don&#39;t even need a text to take it. And just the test is about &#036;225.

And that cert is not worth the paper it is printed on. It&#39;s crap.

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by Pandora@Jun 1 2006, 03:54 PM
Actually, the ACE test is REALLY Easy and you probably don&#39;t even need a text to take it. And just the test is about &#036;225.

And that cert is not worth the paper it is printed on. It&#39;s crap.
I&#39;ve heard that from many people. Also, my old PT was ACE certified and he was an idiot. He totally fed me all the "pink weights are for girls, &#39;cause you don&#39;t wanna get bulky" crap. He told me to do an hour of intense cardio daily. He said I needed to lower my caloric intake, without even looking at my current diet (I was eating 1400 calories anyway). And, once he found out I couldn&#39;t afford any more sessions, he dropped off the face of the planet (even though he was paid to put together a program for me... got the program a month later and it was CRAP).

So, ACE is not even on my list of possiblities.

andi
06-01-2006, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Angelkae+Jun 1 2006, 04:02 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Angelkae @ Jun 1 2006, 04:02 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pandora@Jun 1 2006, 03:54 PM
Actually, the ACE test is REALLY Easy and you probably don&#39;t even need a text to take it. And just the test is about &#036;225.

And that cert is not worth the paper it is printed on. It&#39;s crap.
I&#39;ve heard that from many peolpe. Aslo, my old PT was ACE certified and he was an idiot. He totall fed me all the "pink weights are for girls, cause you don&#39;t wanna get bulky" crap. And, once he found out I couldn&#39;t afford any more sessions, he dropped off the face of the planet (even though he was paid to put together a program for me... got the program a month later and it was CRAP).

So, ACE is not even on my list of possiblities. [/b][/quote]
And I am certified through the ISSA, which is so not worth it in my opinion. I wish I would have utilized my time in NSCA ;)

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by andi@Jun 1 2006, 04:09 PM
I am certified through the ISSA, which is so not worth it in my opinion. I wish I would have utilized my time in NSCA ;)
Someone from ISSA called me today, he was friendly and answered all my questions, but I am really leary about going with a cert that&#39;s not accredited.

What don&#39;t you like about ISSA?

Erik
06-01-2006, 11:48 PM
It sucks.

Angelkae
06-01-2006, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 1 2006, 06:48 PM
It sucks.
Thank you for the elaborate, in-depth explanation. lol :D :D :D

That&#39;s pretty much what I&#39;d gathered, though. Seriously, thanks for reaffirming that.

jrb1980
06-02-2006, 12:08 AM
Out of pure curiosity, how much do full time trainers make annually (just a range is all I am looking for)

Erik
06-02-2006, 01:07 AM
In the gym? Depends. I&#39;m sure the range is very, very huge. I know a couple in California who make a fortune.

I don&#39;t do any PTing in my business so I can&#39;t comment.

ladybug
06-02-2006, 09:28 AM
does anyone have any opinions/experience with AFAA certifications?

Angelkae
06-02-2006, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by jrb1980@Jun 1 2006, 07:08 PM
Out of pure curiosity, how much do full time trainers make annually (just a range is all I am looking for)
Someone from ISSA called me and gave me these figures:

Starting PT/ Gym Chains: &#036;16-28 per hour (national averages)

Experienced Trainers: &#036;31-61 per hour (national averages)
_______________________________________________

My gym charges &#036;50 per hour, but I don&#39;t know how much of that goes to the trainer.

Friends of mine have said they make up to &#036;85 per hour.

As you can see, it REALLY depends on the trainer.

mark
06-02-2006, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by jrb1980@Jun 1 2006, 05:08 PM
Out of pure curiosity, how much do full time trainers make annually (just a range is all I am looking for)
At my gym, when a trainer is not actively training or is doing an orientation session, they make minimum wage. The scale goes up from there depending on their certifications, but I don&#39;t know any of them that makes more than &#036;25/hr. In addition to the hourly, they make 10% commission on all PT sessions sold.

LisaBunny
06-02-2006, 03:14 PM
at my gym, when working the "floor", which is a scheduled time slot for you to be there. During the floor shifts, the trainers can do "fitness profiles" (take bodyfat and all that stuff), and give orientations. The also do stretch classes and core classes. And when theres nothing to do, which is quite often, they clean. Floor shifts are a way to pick up clients, and if your certified you make &#036;9. If you have a degree, you make &#036;9.50.

When personal training, a certified trainer makes &#036;22, and trainer with a degree makes &#036;25 I think. The gym charges about &#036;45.

Angelkae
06-02-2006, 08:24 PM
Thanks to everyone for all the great info&#33;&#33; :D

Pandora
06-02-2006, 08:57 PM
I worked full time as a trainer and I made jack shit. If you do make a good rate off sessions, you spend much of your time being a sleazy sales schmuch trying to rope people into it... and you do not get paid for that... and clients can be hard to come by for many reasons.

I didn&#39;t even make a part time income and I worked as often as I could... it was bad. I don&#39;t do it anymore. It&#39;s a racket.

Everyone in a gym is out to screw someone else over to make money. That&#39;s just how it is. Be ready to koing that group if you want to be a trainer.