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patience123
05-24-2006, 05:34 PM
I really want to avoid building more muscle on my shoulders/traps. I'm doing Thunder's total body routine; are there any exercises I should not do or replace in order to avoid building muscle in this area?

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 05:47 PM
Anything that works the upper body.

patience123
05-24-2006, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 01:47 PM
Anything that works the upper body.
Really?? ANYTHING? :blink:

Blondell
05-24-2006, 06:00 PM
Yeah, stop it w/ those handstands. :lol:

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:00 PM
The shoulder joint is involved in anything you do for the upper body.

The traps are going to be involved in any pulling and most lower body work (ie squats and deadlifts).

Really, you should just stop lifting weights.

Chelsinator
05-24-2006, 06:03 PM
Only cardio for you from now on. 2x1 hour sessions every day.

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:00 PM
The shoulder joint is involved in anything you do for the upper body.

The traps are going to be involved in any pulling and most lower body work (ie squats and deadlifts).

Really, you should just stop lifting weights.
WOW, OK. I was thinking of just avoiding some direct exercises that focus on that area?

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:05 PM
Why would it even be a concern?

Blondell
05-24-2006, 06:07 PM
I want more muscle in my shoulders and traps!! Can I have what you don't want? :oops:


:lol:

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:09 PM
Suuuuuuure! LOL Although they're not big now, I just dont' want them to get bigger.

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:10 PM
I wish adding muscle was as easy as untrained females made it seem.

Chelsinator
05-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by bdd814@May 24 2006, 12:07 PM
I want more muscle in my shoulders and traps!! Can I have what you don't want? :oops:


:lol:
:lol: I was thinking the same thing...

Then again, I hate the stuff I have, too :dry: (ex.135 lb bench cuz I am burly)

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:05 PM
Why would it even be a concern?
Just dont' like that look, that's all :shrug:

Erik
05-24-2006, 06:11 PM
I doubt you'll wake up one morning and be mortified by your shoulder and trap development. ;)

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:14 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 24 2006, 02:11 PM
I doubt you'll wake up one morning and be mortified by your shoulder and trap development. ;)
:lol: That's too funny!
The thing is, when I see myself every day in the mirror, I dont' really notice the little changes.. and one day, you wake up and go... :eek:

:lol:

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don't think my traps are too big.

We won't talk about my shoulders.

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don't think my traps are too big.

We won't talk about my shoulders.
That's cause you want to be HUGE!!! :p

janey
05-24-2006, 06:18 PM
I want big shoulders. :dry:

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by patience123+May 24 2006, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (patience123 @ May 24 2006, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don&#39;t think my traps are too big.

We won&#39;t talk about my shoulders.
That&#39;s cause you want to be HUGE&#33;&#33;&#33; :p [/b][/quote]
Like I said, you still aren&#39;t going to have to worry about it becoming excessive.

This is a tired argument, but one I&#39;ll repeat-- women, barring exogenous androgens, aren&#39;t going to build "too much" muscle.

patience123
05-24-2006, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL+May 24 2006, 02:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PowerManDL @ May 24 2006, 02:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by patience123@May 24 2006, 02:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don&#39;t think my traps are too big.

We won&#39;t talk about my shoulders.
That&#39;s cause you want to be HUGE&#33;&#33;&#33; :p
Like I said, you still aren&#39;t going to have to worry about it becoming excessive.

This is a tired argument, but one I&#39;ll repeat-- women, barring exogenous androgens, aren&#39;t going to build "too much" muscle. [/b][/quote]
OK :) You&#39;ve convinsed me... I&#39;m off to the gym :train:

Tony
05-24-2006, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL+May 24 2006, 01:21 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (PowerManDL @ May 24 2006, 01:21 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by patience123@May 24 2006, 02:17 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don&#39;t think my traps are too big.

We won&#39;t talk about my shoulders.
That&#39;s cause you want to be HUGE&#33;&#33;&#33; :p
Like I said, you still aren&#39;t going to have to worry about it becoming excessive.

This is a tired argument, but one I&#39;ll repeat-- women, barring exogenous androgens, aren&#39;t going to build "too much" muscle. [/b][/quote]
You sure about that? I heard that riding the stationary bike will make their legs HUGE.

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 06:26 PM
It&#39;s the true secret to anabolic muscle building.

Blondell
05-24-2006, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by patience123+May 24 2006, 02:17 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (patience123 @ May 24 2006, 02:17 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 02:16 PM
Even after years of deadlifts, shrugs, and Olympic pulls I don&#39;t think my traps are too big.

We won&#39;t talk about my shoulders.
That&#39;s cause you want to be HUGE&#33;&#33;&#33; :p [/b][/quote]
ooh, oooh me too

i wanna be huge&#33; :D

Beth66
05-24-2006, 07:15 PM
Although everyone is giving you shit Patience123, I want you to know that I understand what you&#39;re saying.

I want my neck to go straight down and my shoulders to be square. I don&#39;t like the look of large traps that make your neck and shoulders appear to be one unit.

I understand that women can&#39;t build huge muscles, but we can build them enough to alter our look. Perhaps its a matter of balancing the traps and the deltoids. Maybe the shape of our neck/shoulder is just genetics.

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by Beth66@May 24 2006, 03:15 PM
Maybe the shape of our neck/shoulder is just genetics.
Bingo.

Frankly, men don&#39;t have the problems that women have RE: some archetypal image of what&#39;s attractive.

You want your neck to look a certain way; why? Because that&#39;s what society has deemed is "attractive".

Unfortunately, that ingrained image of women isn&#39;t compatible with weight training (that&#39;s not retarded). That&#39;s just something you&#39;ll have to accept.

Beth66
05-24-2006, 09:39 PM
So then, I think we all have to be accepting and supportive of people on the board who say "OK, that body part is as developed as I want it to be." If you are so inclined, you can then advise that person on the best way to maintain the look they have while not continuing hypertrophy. :) :chinup:

Brandi
05-24-2006, 09:44 PM
Originally posted by Chelsinator@May 24 2006, 11:10 AM
Then again, I hate the stuff I have, too :dry: (ex.135 lb bench cuz I am burly)
I bench 135. I am not burly enough.

Just fat.

Fat doesn&#39;t = burl. :dry: Dammit.

Brandi
05-24-2006, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 12:22 PM
Bingo.

Frankly, men don&#39;t have the problems that women have RE: some archetypal image of what&#39;s attractive.

You want your neck to look a certain way; why? Because that&#39;s what society has deemed is "attractive".

Unfortunately, that ingrained image of women isn&#39;t compatible with weight training (that&#39;s not retarded). That&#39;s just something you&#39;ll have to accept.
Well put, Matt.

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Beth66@May 24 2006, 05:39 PM
So then, I think we all have to be accepting and supportive of people on the board who say "OK, that body part is as developed as I want it to be." If you are so inclined, you can then advise that person on the best way to maintain the look they have while not continuing hypertrophy. :) :chinup:
The body grows as a unit, not a collection of parts.

Certainly you can orient training in some ways to specialize the development of some areas, but to assume you can just neglect growth in a part completely? Not gonna happen, and even if you could, you&#39;d likely wind up injured in the long term. Those muscles are there for more than just looks.

This isn&#39;t a matter of preference or choice, it&#39;s a basic physiological concept.

Pakse
05-24-2006, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 24 2006, 04:02 PM
Certainly you can orient training in some ways to specialize the development of some areas, but to assume you can just neglect growth in a part completely? Not gonna happen, and even if you could, you&#39;d likely wind up injured in the long term. Those muscles are there for more than just looks.
:clap:

fitmommy
05-24-2006, 10:48 PM
I am trying to figure out how to make my shoulders bigger. I am looking for that "magic pill" :wink:

PowerManDL
05-24-2006, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by fitmommy@May 24 2006, 06:48 PM
I am looking for that "magic pill" :wink:
http://www.gouldesbrough.com/pictures/testosterone.jpg

LisaBunny
05-24-2006, 11:16 PM
:funny:

smuggie
05-24-2006, 11:34 PM
I had to work like a freakin&#39; dog to build my delts.

And my traps are far from hyooooooooooooge despite the heavy pulling work I do.

I wish it was easy to build muscle.

ShimmyPrincess
05-25-2006, 12:00 AM
I like my delts but I was just looking in the mirror the other day thinking my traps should be bigger...I look kind of skinny up top.

DeeDee
05-25-2006, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by smuggie@May 24 2006, 06:34 PM


I wish it was easy to build muscle.
I hear you there.

I have to work like mad to develop my legs.
Upper body comes easier for me, but even so excessive size just doesn&#39;t happen.

clsupnorth
05-25-2006, 12:24 AM
This reminds me of a &#39;discussion&#39; I&#39;ve had with 2 separate women this week. I&#39;ve been helping each one set up a weight/diet program, and the first thing each one said to me was "I don&#39;t want to lift weights and become all big and bulky".

:censor:

I had to find a politically polite way to explain to them that if they worked like a maniac for the next 3 years, followed the strictest diet possible, lifting heavy, treated it like a full-time job, thought about diet/fitness 24/7, committed to it like a marriage, then, yes, perhaps, just maybe, they might look like a she-hulk. Might.
Maybe.

smuggie
05-25-2006, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by clsupnorth@May 24 2006, 08:24 PM
This reminds me of a &#39;discussion&#39; I&#39;ve had with 2 separate women this week. I&#39;ve been helping each one set up a weight/diet program, and the first thing each one said to me was "I don&#39;t want to lift weights and become all big and bulky".

:censor:

I had to find a politically polite way to explain to them that if they worked like a maniac for the next 3 years, followed the strictest diet possible, lifting heavy, treated it like a full-time job, thought about diet/fitness 24/7, committed to it like a marriage, then, yes, perhaps, just maybe, they might look like a she-hulk. Might.
Maybe.
Nope, not unless they use chemical assistance too.

Chelsinator
05-25-2006, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Brandi@May 24 2006, 03:44 PM
I bench 135. I am not burly enough.

Just fat.

Fat doesn&#39;t = burl. :dry: Dammit.
Burly doesn&#39;t = good in my books. Burl = eww.

Shut up about fat. You&#39;re hawt.

DeeLovely79
05-25-2006, 01:33 AM
Don&#39;t worry I understand what you are saying patience. I have the same issue and it&#39;s like what everyone else says just by weight lifting we are working towards an image that society says is not what an attractive woman looks like. I would like my traps to look smaller but obviously due to 1) Genetics and 2) The fact that since I was a teenager I&#39;ve always been carrying heavy boxes, suitcases, bags my during my daily routine my traps look more like those of the average male lifter than the average female lifter. But there is nothing I can do about it, short of losing enough fat to make that area less bulky looking. Even if I stopped lifting they would still be big due to my daily activities. So instead of thinking about that I&#39;m putting my concentration to areas I can change like my abs, legs, butt etc.

absolut_blonde
05-25-2006, 07:06 AM
For what it&#39;s worth, I think strong, muscular shoulders are far more attractive than scrawny, untoned shoulders.

Developing that area also makes your waist seem smaller in comparison, I&#39;ve found (at least it has for me). It also helps visually balance out my hip area, since I&#39;m pear-shaped naturally.

Sportsgirl
05-25-2006, 10:36 AM
Lets get MASSIV &#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; :flex:

Leah
05-25-2006, 11:09 AM
My traps are huge :flex: But I get them from painting ceilings, not lifting weights :suicide:

Hoochiemomma
05-25-2006, 04:26 PM
My shoulders have always been wide, so the last thing I want is a lot of muscle making them look bigger. Why? Because clothes don&#39;t fit. The shoulder seam only extends to the "dent" where my traps end, and the rest of the garment hangs like a sack. I end up altering a lot of clothes.

This has not stopped me from working my shoulders though, and as a result I have lost some fat that was making this problem worse.

Erik
05-25-2006, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by Leah@May 25 2006, 07:09 AM
My traps are huge :flex:
:blink:

jrb1980
05-25-2006, 06:27 PM
Patience, I don&#39;t know where you are at body fat wise but I know for me I was lifting heavy and felt like I looked bulky on top and this little voice inside my head was like "doing that is only going to make you bigger" BUT...I didn&#39;t listen and just kept doing what I was told but then eventually (just starting now) I am really starting to lean out and now it is a whole different story.

jaleena
05-26-2006, 02:54 AM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 24 2006, 06:11 PM
I doubt you&#39;ll wake up one morning and be mortified by your shoulder and trap development. ;)
She might. She might have to call Guiness. "I picked up something heavy yesterday, and now I&#39;m bigger than Ronnie, and I can&#39;t fit through the door&#33; And I didn&#39;t even eat any more than usual&#33;"