What's the worst that could happen?

[trinitylove]

i've always been tempted to try a new appetite suppressant to get my cravings under control and lose that nasty hip fat that doesn't budge. i eat clean and lift heavy, but sometimes i get so friggin hungry and go over my maintenace cals.
anyway...................
regardless of my reasons for wanting to try a suppressant, what is the worst that could happen if a bad reaction occurred?
i've heard stories of people having heart attacks, strokes, embelisms, etc.
were they just genetically predisposed to this type of reaction or do you think there were also health factors involved like high bp, cholesterol, etc.

[PowerManDL]

That's entirely contingent upon what you're planning to use.

[trinitylove]

well, relatively speaking, what would be the safest/most effective in regards to heart health, cardio health, etc?
and, what would be the least safest regardless of effectiveness?

[PowerManDL]

Hoodia and 5-HTP are probably the best in terms of "safe"

Then you get the stuff like synephrine that's an ephedrine analog, but really good at killing appetite.

At the top tier you've got the heavy hitters, clenbuterol, albuterol, bromocriptine, that type of thing.

Though honestly, I don't feel there's a danger to any of them; just a matter of how strong you want the effect to be.

[trinitylove]

ok. thanks.
but, if you don't think there's really a danger, then what's your take on the dangerous side effects people have experienced?
other health issues entirely?

[PowerManDL]

I think they've been incredibly stupid about dosing, have a pre-existing condition, or both.

In other words, they're homos.

[jrb1980]

PMDL - what about E/C?

Also, depends HOW much hunger we are talking about. I mean hunger and peoples tolerance is a scale. IMO - Hoodia, while NOT widely researched, is a good choice if this is an occassional thing. BUT the stuff that seems to work is expensive as hell!

[PowerManDL]

EC's fine if it works for you. At this point it's becoming a sedative.

At any rate, I know most here won't use it and wouldn't know where to get it anyway, but for appetite suppression, nothing I've used beats bromocriptine.

[Chelsinator]

Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 25 2006, 06:49 PM
EC's fine if it works for you. At this point it's becoming a sedative.

At any rate, I know most here won't use it and wouldn't know where to get it anyway, but for appetite suppression, nothing I've used beats bromocriptine.
Where do I get this shit? :dry:

[Erik]

You're in Canada. You're screwed.

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by Chelsinator+May 25 2006, 09:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chelsinator @ May 25 2006, 09:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-PowerManDL@May 25 2006, 06:49 PM
EC&#39;s fine if it works for you. At this point it&#39;s becoming a sedative.

At any rate, I know most here won&#39;t use it and wouldn&#39;t know where to get it anyway, but for appetite suppression, nothing I&#39;ve used beats bromocriptine.
Where do I get this shit? :dry: [/b][/quote]
You wouldn&#39;t like it anyway. The first 2-3 days of it make you feel like the onset of a cold, and really space you out. Though that goes away once you adjust to the dose.

It has a really cool big brother, pergolide, that is probably the best partitioning drug available...guys have eaten 10,000 calories or more without gaining an ounce of fat. The only downside is that the hallucinations tend to get out of hand.

Dopamine agonists are fun.

[quickie]

What is pergolide usually used for?

[Erik]

Inhibitory neuromodulators of the dopaminergic system are more fun. :ninja:

Or so I&#39;ve heard.

[Lynny]

Originally posted by Thunder@May 25 2006, 08:52 PM
Inhibitory neuromodulators of the dopaminergic system are more fun. :ninja:

Or so I&#39;ve heard.
Of course. :lol:

[PowerManDL]

Originally posted by quickie@May 25 2006, 10:45 PM
What is pergolide usually used for?
Treating Parkinson&#39;s disease, and it&#39;d also be good for hyperprolactinemia, but I&#39;m not sure it&#39;s used for that purpose because of the sides.

[quickie]

Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 26 2006, 03:04 AM
Treating Parkinson&#39;s disease, and it&#39;d also be good for hyperprolactinemia, but I&#39;m not sure it&#39;s used for that purpose because of the sides.
So how did people find out it works for muscle partitioning?

[PowerManDL]

Observation.

The dopamine receptors work upstream of leptin&#39;s actions in the brain.

[Erik]

What would it mean for substances that inhibited dopamine release?

[PowerManDL]

No idea really.

Dopamine acts on the "reward" center in the brain...I&#39;d imagine it&#39;d be like anti-cocaine, but I&#39;m not aware of any drugs that do that off-hand.

[Erik]

Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 25 2006, 11:37 PM
No idea really.

Dopamine acts on the "reward" center in the brain...I&#39;d imagine it&#39;d be like anti-cocaine, but I&#39;m not aware of any drugs that do that off-hand.
GHB. Temporary effect mind you; then when it wears off the flood gates open and you drown in dopamine.

[PowerManDL]

That explains that, then.

[Chelsinator]

Originally posted by Thunder@May 25 2006, 07:41 PM
You&#39;re in Canada. You&#39;re screwed.
:dry: