Coffee and Effects on B.F. Loss

[EmilytheStrange]

I was reading on another site that consumption of coffee (caffeine really) can slow down fat loss. It stated that it could possibly increase insulin resistance while slowing down your metabolism. Has anyone found this to be true? I've just recently started drinking coffee (at least 20 oz. cup/day) and I also take an EC stack in the a.m. before my workout. Is this too much caffeine?

Thanks in advance!

[Blondell]

People respond diffently to caffeine. I've had no problems w/ large amounts and fat loss. I can have it up til I go to bed and still get to sleep. The energy that comes w/ it helps my w/o intensity, also.

[Blondell]

Could you please post a link to the site?

[Amy]

Originally posted by EmilytheStrange@May 2 2006, 01:48 PM
I was reading on another site that consumption of coffee (caffeine really) can slow down fat loss. It stated that it could possibly increase insulin resistance while slowing down your metabolism. Has anyone found this to be true? I've just recently started drinking coffee (at least 20 oz. cup/day) and I also take an EC stack in the a.m. before my workout. Is this too much caffeine?

Thanks in advance!
I can not say whether that is true or not - but I can say that over the past 16 weeks that I have been preparing for a show, I have drank about 2-4 big mugs of coffee/day - and through propper diet and effective training, I have lost 13 lbs.

Could I have lost more/saved muscle had I forgone the coffee? Who knows - but that is one sacrifice I am not willing to make, and I am happy with the results.

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by bdd814@May 2 2006, 05:55 PM
Could you please post a link to the site?
It was just a random thread that came up when I did a search:

Coffee (http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14431&highlight=coffee)

[Blondell]

It is a question that was placed on another forum. It is just someone telling their personal experience. :)

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by bdd814@May 2 2006, 06:11 PM
It is a question that was placed on another forum. It is just someone telling their personal experience. :)
I know. :) But I am currently dieting and just started drinking coffee. Just wondering if there could be any truth behind this. That's all. ;)

[Blondell]

If you are concerned, stop drinking it. No one will know if it has that effect on you until you stop drinking it. It doesn't do that to me, personally. :)

[Brandi]

I drink coffee with my EC. :o :lol:

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by Brandi@May 2 2006, 06:25 PM
I drink coffee with my EC. :o :lol:
:o :o :lol:

[Blondell]

Originally posted by Brandi@May 2 2006, 06:25 PM
I drink coffee with my EC. :o :lol:
So do I. I need all the help I can get energy-wise. :D

[LUVPINK222]

What's EC?!

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by LUVPINK222@May 2 2006, 06:34 PM
What's EC?!
Ephedrine + Caffeine

[DeeLovely79]

I had did some searching on O2 and John Beradi's site and while the evidence is not clear caffeine is supposed to give you a quick metabolic boost and it is beneficial an hour or so pre-workout for a boost of energy. At the same time it does increase insulin resistance.

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supple...on/caffeine.htm (http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supplementation/caffeine.htm)

[collegegirl]

I heard that caffeine actually helps with fat loss. I heard you should take it before you do cardio. Don't know if it's true or not. I use it for energy.

[Brandi]

It makes me a lot less bitchy when I take it. Heh.

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by DeeLovely79@May 2 2006, 06:43 PM
I had did some searching on O2 and John Beradi's site and while the evidence is not clear caffeine is supposed to give you a quick metabolic boost and it is beneficial an hour or so pre-workout for a boost of energy. At the same time it does increase insulin resistance.

http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supple...on/caffeine.htm (http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/supplementation/caffeine.htm)
Wow, thanks for the link! I had completely forgotten about this site. I read some of the article and will have to read the rest later when I get a chance.

[andi]

mmm I love coffee! :love: that is all.

[EmilytheStrange]

Originally posted by andi@May 2 2006, 09:45 PM
mmm I love coffee! :love: that is all.
Me too..especially since I discovered chocolate raspberry flavored coffee at my local java joint ::insert drooling emoticon here::

[Erik]

Caffeine's typically involved in the EC stack obviously and does I believe cause an increase in FFA use during exercise but from a real world standpoint, I don't believe there's a good body of research to show that caffeine consumption causes significant weight loss. There's the diuretic effect it has as well.

And I'm not sure if it's effects on insulin resistance are similar b/w fat and muscle tissue, as is the case with alpha lipoic acid, but insulin resistance in fat tissue is a good thing; not so much in muscle tissue obviously.

Ideally we'd have high insulin sensitivity in muscle and high insulin resistance in fat.

[DeeLovely79]

Originally posted by Thunder@May 2 2006, 11:20 PM
Caffeine's typically involved in the EC stack obviously and does I believe cause an increase in FFA use during exercise but from a real world standpoint, I don't believe there's a good body of research to show that caffeine consumption causes significant weight loss. There's the diuretic effect it has as well.

And I'm not sure if it's effects on insulin resistance are similar b/w fat and muscle tissue, as is the case with alpha lipoic acid, but insulin resistance in fat tissue is a good thing; not so much in muscle tissue obviously.

Ideally we'd have high insulin sensitivity in muscle and high insulin resistance in fat.
So drinking coffee an hour pre-workout in an athletic individual who's goal is fat loss would help or hinder their progress?

[Erik]

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Caffeine&#39;s typically involved in the EC stack obviously and does I believe cause an increase in FFA use during exercise but from a real world standpoint, I don&#39;t believe there&#39;s a good body of research to show that caffeine consumption causes significant weight loss. There&#39;s the diuretic effect it has as well.

And I&#39;m not sure if it&#39;s effects on insulin resistance are similar b/w fat and muscle tissue, as is the case with alpha lipoic acid, but insulin resistance in fat tissue is a good thing; not so much in muscle tissue obviously.

Ideally we&#39;d have high insulin sensitivity in muscle and high insulin resistance in fat.
So drinking coffee an hour pre-workout in an athletic individual who&#39;s goal is fat loss would help or hinder their progress? [/b][/quote]
In terms of actual &#39;burning fat&#39;, I&#39;d probably say insignificant effect. However, the stimulatory effect you&#39;d get out of it would allow you to work harder which would be of benefit.

[LUVPINK222]

Isn&#39;t ehpedrine really bad for you? I used to take it a few years back and it gave me heart palpitations. To this day when I have too much caffeine I get the heart palpitations.

[Christine_99]

Originally posted by LUVPINK222@May 3 2006, 10:20 AM
Isn&#39;t ehpedrine really bad for you? I used to take it a few years back and it gave me heart palpitations. To this day when I have too much caffeine I get the heart palpitations.
I think if you get heart palpitations, then you should steer clear of ephedrine. Not everyone reacts to it the same. I take it, and I have no bad reactions to it at all.

[Erik]

Originally posted by LUVPINK222@May 3 2006, 12:20 PM
Isn&#39;t ehpedrine really bad for you? I used to take it a few years back and it gave me heart palpitations. To this day when I have too much caffeine I get the heart palpitations.
Generally speaking, no. However, some people do have a hypersensitivity to stimulants and should take that into consideration.

I don&#39;t like the feeling personally, but then again, I generally like being tired.

[ironangel]

I keep my coffee and SF creamer in all the way up to the show. I have 2 boys ages 3 and 5 and there is no way I could give up my morning coffee, lol. I also use a ECA before my workout and I havent had a problem with it and the coffee.

Kelly