Steroids

[Erik]

So we all know that steroids work. We also know that any drug has side effects, the magnitude of which varies from person to person, drug to drug, etc.

I'm wondering, if steroids were 100% side-effect free and totally legal, yet they were still drugs and still had the same ostracized label, would you take them?

So some people might still think you're 'cheating' or taking a short cut, etc., but other than that, no sides and no legality issues and they'd still be just as demonized in media as ever.

[Blondell]

yes :D

[Amy]

yes :D

:yeahthat:

Legal and side effect free? Why not.

I would love to hear from those who wouldn't use them. For argument sake.

[Noel Clark]

Wouldn't that kind of make them like Fish oils or Protein Powder.
Now if they were exactly what they were now...but just legalized. Would you use them?

[Amy]

Wouldn't that kind of make them like Fish oils or Protein Powder.
Now if they were exactly what they were now...but just legalized. Would you use them?


You mean still have side effects but legal? Hmmm...I guess it would depend on the drug and what the possible side effects are :shrug:

[Blondell]

Wouldn't that kind of make them like Fish oils or Protein Powder.
Now if they were exactly what they were now...but just legalized. Would you use them?

yes :D

[RpH]

I personally wouldn't but that's just me. They're really not that hard to make.

My roomie in college was on Anadrol. Made him strong and gave him ulcerative colitis too.

[Blondell]

I personally wouldn't but that's just me. They're really not that hard to make.

My roomie in college was on Anadrol. Made him strong and gave him ulcerative colitis too.

What was his dosing like and how long was it run?

[RpH]

What was his dosing like and how long was it run?

He did two tapered cycles but I don't remember what his starting dose was. I think they were 5 week cycles.

[soontobefit]

Aren't steroids fairly expensive? If they still had the same price tag, definitely not. (assuming I am correct that they are expensive)

[RpH]

Aren't steroids fairly expensive? If they still had the same price tag, definitely not. (assuming I am correct that they are expensive)

Depends on what you buy. Some of it is very inexpensive.

[Erik]

Wouldn't that kind of make them like Fish oils or Protein Powder.
Now if they were exactly what they were now...but just legalized. Would you use them?

No

Because I also mentioned they'd carry the same stigma they do now.

[Inatic]

i dont think i'd take them either way.

[synergyb3]

i dont think i'd take them either way.:ditto:

[Noel Clark]

No
Because I also mentioned they'd carry the same stigma they do now.

:lol:

ok--I take that back then.

carry on...

[Amy]

maybe make this a poll :shrug:

[MichelleS]

Wouldn't that kind of make them like Fish oils or Protein Powder.
Now if they were exactly what they were now...but just legalized. Would you use them?

yes

[MichelleS]

:lol:

ok--I take that back then.

carry on...

then still yes :ninja:

[Erik]

Maybe if I added two other scenarious

Some, but few, side effects, but legal.
Illegal (but not scheduled as they are now), but side effect free.

[MichelleS]

I think there are always going to be people that will and will not no matter what the sides or legal issues are.

[Erik]

I think there are always going to be people that will and will not no matter what the sides or legal issues are.

Of course.

The point is asking was to see how many would fall on each side.

[MichelleS]

Of course.

The point is asking was to see how many would fall on each side.
well then I would like to know what others would do. I know what I would already do :blondell: .

[Fitwolf]

Erik, are you basically asking who considers steroids "cheating?"

To me, if there were no side effects and they were legal, the only reason not to take them is that one wants to see what her body can do without outside chemicals (which seems like fish oil and pp would be cut out, like Noel said), or because one wants to build her body the "harder" way.

I can handwrite a letter and put it in an envelope and mail it... or I can do email. Similar analogy?

As for me... I find it impossible to fathom them not having side effects... but since I'm fine using PP and fish oils, I'm guessing I would be ok with using them in your scenario.

[Erik]

Erik, are you basically asking who considers steroids "cheating?"


I guess that's be a good overview. :lol:

[KellyFL]

I have to say that I would try them. It's been hard for me to put on muscle, my body naturally wants to be thin, so I would be curious as to how much they could help.

[RpH]

I have to say that I would try them. It's been hard for me to put on muscle, my body naturally wants to be thin, so I would be curious as to how much they could help.

Done the right way, they make a HUGE difference.

[vicky]

side effect free : Yes
with side effects: Hell No

I don't care much about the legal part, I'm Greek after all :ninja:

[jaleena]

If we kept them illegal and with most of the side effects, just removed any trace of clitoral hypertrophy/sensitivity, I'd never want to go off.

[Sportsgirl]

No.

The only thing I would be interested in taking (provided the same legal/no sides rules apply) is something to accelerate fat loss as it's bloody hard to get lean!

[StefanM]

No. I would like to add a little more size but I can get there without them.

I probably would have as a teen though or in my early 20s. Just for the quick results.

[Cindy Day]

No.

The only thing I would be interested in taking (provided the same legal/no sides rules apply) is something to accelerate fat loss as it's bloody hard to get lean!

:ditto:

[Brooke21]

No.

The only thing I would be interested in taking (provided the same legal/no sides rules apply) is something to accelerate fat loss as it's bloody hard to get lean!

:yeahthat: In a major way.

[Trinity]

If they where legal with no side effects, then yes, I would take them.

But legal with the same side effects? I don't think I would in that case. God it would be tempting, but I'd have to pass.

[nb1313]

Legal and no side effects? Bring it on.

Side effects: No way, I won't even take a thermogenic sold over the
counter cuz of the scary way they make me feel, let alone get acne at 44, a giant clitoris, and an alto voice, but oh, don't they bring about more breast tissue too ? ;)
Nadine

[Blondell]

don't they bring about more breast tissue too ? ;)
Nadine

Who told you that? :eh:

[RpH]

In some males, gynecomastia can occur when endogenous androgen levels decrease due to exogenous androgen administration creating an imbalance of the estrogen to androgen ratio. Did that make sense?

[Meechel]

In some males, gynecomastia can occur when endogenous androgen levels decrease due to exogenous androgen administration creating an imbalance of the estrogen to androgen ratio. Did that make sense?

:blink: :wtf:

[Blondell]

In some males, gynecomastia can occur when endogenous androgen levels decrease due to exogenous androgen administration creating an imbalance of the estrogen to androgen ratio. Did that make sense?

I know that. I thought she meant in females.

[Blondell]

:blink: :wtf:

Men take steroids, their estrogen increases, they grow boobies. :lol:

It's called gynecomastia also known as gyno.

[MichelleS]

Men take steroids, their estrogen increases, they grow boobies. :lol:.
they are called mits :lol3:



I know a guy that this has happened to :shhh:

[Trinity]

Men take steroids, their estrogen increases, they grow boobies. :lol:

It's called gynecomastia also known as gyno.

If steroids could make me grow boobies....I'd be all over that sh*t :D

[nb1313]

I was just kidding about the breast tissue increasing in females, steroids do have the reputation for creating bitch tits in men though. Since I am new here, I guess I'll just ease into my sarcastic remarks, did not intend to come across as confusing.
Nadine

[fitmonkey]

With side effects... nah, I don't think so. I have anger management issues from time to time an an addictive personality. No telling how I'd act on them and if I'd take it to the extremes.
Legal or illegal... I'm in the middle. Prior to having a kid I'd injectected a lot worse, and did a lot more risky things. Now with a kid, everything makes me cautious. I've got an example to set and a child to raise.

[jlb001]

Oh damn how did I miss this? hehe


Umm...YES

Now let me go read the entire thing before I say anything else. LOL

[Lyn]

I would try them. I am NOT an overachiever so anything that would make me get the physique I want with less work, I'm all for it; provided the side effects were minimal. I doubt I'd go past clen, anavar and/or a testosterone cream though. I'm not injecting myself with anything. :ban:

[jlb001]

Aren't steroids fairly expensive? If they still had the same price tag, definitely not. (assuming I am correct that they are expensive)

They are. But the reason being everything is so hush hush on getting them which drives up the prices. Then you got the baseball stuff, the Olympic stuff and all that kinda stuff that adds to the price. Then you got your guy that gets them brought in for one price if your lucky you get in contact with him, but if not then you go through your local person who now doubt doubles the price that he got them for, and if there is anyone else...they double the price too....so you can end up paying buttloads. Unless someone likes you then you get them lots cheaper.

[jlb001]

I would try them. I am NOT an overachiever so anything that would make me get the physique I want with less work, I'm all for it; provided the side effects were minimal. I doubt I'd go past clen, anavar and/or a testosterone cream though. I'm not injecting myself with anything. :ban:

Less work? We bust our asses probably harder than those that don't use. To me that is a crock of shit.

[jlb001]

Legal and no side effects? Bring it on.

Side effects: No way, I won't even take a thermogenic sold over the
counter cuz of the scary way they make me feel, let alone get acne at 44, a giant clitoris, and an alto voice, but oh, don't they bring about more breast tissue too ? ;)
Nadine

OMG...I wish they made the boobs HUGE!! Certainly would get rid of having to get a boob job.

Giant man in the boat and alto voice happens when women take the wrong things or too much of what women can take.

[jlb001]

Men take steroids, their estrogen increases, they grow boobies. :lol:

It's called gynecomastia also known as gyno.

LMAO....if they don't take armidex or others to stop that stuff they deserve bitch tit.

[Lyn]

Less work? We bust our asses probably harder than those that don't use. To me that is a crock of shit.

That's not what I meant. I know you still have to work hard and I would still want to. I meant that I would love to have an advantage.

My comment was alluding to my own laziness, not anyone else's. :D

[jlb001]

That's not what I meant. I know you still have to work hard and I would still want to. I meant that I would love to have an advantage.

My comment was alluding to my own laziness, not anyone else's. :D

Ohhhhhhhhhh. hehe

[rogmel]

I have to say that I would try them. It's been hard for me to put on muscle, my body naturally wants to be thin, so I would be curious as to how much they could help.

I might consider it for just the opposite reasons......i have no trouble putting on muscle, but a terrible time with fat loss.....so i would MAYBE consider one for fat loss only......i do NOT want to get any bigger!!!

[Anca]

I would take anything legal and side-effect free- I have a tough time putting on muscle. :(

[Neely]

If steroids could make me grow boobies....I'd be all over that sh*t :D

:lol3: :yeahthat:

[Holly]

I wouldn't, simply because I want to see what I can accomplish on my own- through nutrition and exercise.

[Blondell]

I might consider it for just the opposite reasons......i have no trouble putting on muscle, but a terrible time with fat loss.....so i would MAYBE consider one for fat loss only......i do NOT want to get any bigger!!!

You'd be in trouble then. :lol:


Most of them will not speed up fat loss a significant amount but CAN add a bit more mass while in a deficit.

[RpH]

You'd be in trouble then. :lol:


Most of them will not speed up fat loss a significant amount but CAN add a bit more mass while in a deficit.

Winstrol?

[Blondell]

Winstrol?

Most of them will not speed up fat loss a significant amount.

[SusanF]

No.

The only thing I would be interested in taking (provided the same legal/no sides rules apply) is something to accelerate fat loss as it's bloody hard to get lean!

:yeahthat:

[jlb001]

Winstrol?

Why? And for what purpose?

[RpH]

Why? And for what purpose?

I was just questioning B about it's effect on cutting vs. bulking.