PSMF

[wannabelean]

When you are doing this sort of dieting to you have increased carbs after a training session?

[Blondell]

no

eta--you can add some b/f and during though. Around 30g.

[Meechel]

When you are doing this sort of dieting to you have increased carbs after a training session?

I am having a small amount before training....so they get used during training.

[Patricia]

I never did. Just a small amt of veggies. Carbs only came during refeeds.

[wannabelean]

Thanks I was just reading Charrissa journal and saw that she was dieting this way right now. I do not think I am ready for that.

[Meechel]

no

eta--you can add some b/f and during though. Around 30g.

yep this is exactly what I am doing will be smarties :piggie:

[Meechel]

Thanks I was just reading Charrissa journal and saw that she was dieting this way right now. I do not think I am ready for that.

honestly if you don't go into it with the right mindset I would not advise it at all....it can be brutal but I am using as a tool to get my fat loss jump started again and I am embracing it as just another stage in my journey.

[Erik]

Thanks I was just reading Charrissa journal and saw that she was dieting this way right now. I do not think I am ready for that.

She is only doing that short term (a bit over a week) due to an error she made on her previous program - so now we have to try to catch up a bit.

[Patricia]

Thanks I was just reading Charrissa journal and saw that she was dieting this way right now. I do not think I am ready for that.

When I did it last year (w/Erik) it was on a 3-4 day PSMF then 1 refeed day pattern... it's not too bad.

[wannabelean]

Is it similar then to carb cycling but with even lower amount of carbs? Just trying to learn a bit. I don't think I have ever done this form of dieting. If you cycled this occasionally though your dieting process it will help stimulate fat loss?

[Blondell]

Is it similar then to carb cycling but with even lower amount of carbs? Just trying to learn a bit. I don't think I have ever done this form of dieting. If you cycled this occasionally though your dieting process it will help stimulate fat loss?

NO carbs, other than fibrous veggies, is pretty much what it is. The option for pre w/o carbs is there, but you'll train only about 2x/wk. You get 6g fish oils, fibrous veggies and protein. That's your food.

[MichelleS]

it made me super cranky to be around too :sad:

[Blondell]

it made me super cranky to be around too :sad:

I can't imagine why... :lol:

[MichelleS]

I can't imagine why... :lol:

too bad I don't :iluvcoffee: I felt like a fog.



(good thing Chris was deployed at the time :lol: )

[Noel Clark]

I find that it is hard for a very short time and then the hunger seems to go away.

Protein Sparing Modified Fast...protein and fish oils baby :lol:

[Sunshine]

Protein Strictly Motha F***. As Noel said, protein. fish oil, and for me lots of salad. I did this quite a bit on cardio only/off days in prep, but had higher carbs on training days. Lyle's book has really good nutrition/physiology info as well as the diet, and IMO well worth the money.

[wannabelean]

Is cottage cheese allowed or mostly meat/protein shakes?

[Blondell]

Is cottage cheese allowed or mostly meat/protein shakes?

Yes, not only is it allowed, it's encouraged! 2 svgs of it (or ff cheese) per day.

[Meechel]

I am using no fat cc with pp as my last meal. You really should get the book though for specifics as I am actually enjoying reading it.

[Blondell]

I am using no fat cc with pp as my last meal. You really should get the book though for specifics as I am actually enjoying reading it.

Having the book IS the best way to go w/ this. :nod:

[wannabelean]

what about doing this 5 days on 2 days off. Anyone ever done it like that? Varied the plan?

[Blondell]

what about doing this 5 days on 2 days off. Anyone ever done it like that? Varied the plan?

That works fine. I've done it on the weekends. You can change it up to suit your desires.

[wannabelean]

what kind of results did you get when mixing it up? How about your exercise patterns. I do not see doing any HIT or boot camp. What about just 2 days 5x5

[Blondell]

what kind of results did you get when mixing it up? How about your exercise patterns. I do not see doing any HIT or boot camp. What about just 2 days 5x5

You need to read the book. ;)

No 5x5 maybe 2-3x5-6. NO HIIT.

[magnolia]

Having the book IS the best way to go w/ this. :nod:

What is the book called? I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks :)

[Blondell]

What is the book called? I'd like to take a look at it. Thanks :)

It's called 'The Rapid Fatloss Handbook'

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/lylemcdonald-tha.html