What is the difference btwn pendlay rows and bent over rows?

[Sandy]

Is any of this correct?:scratch:

Pendlay

no movement of upper body
bar in towards lower chest (sometimes looks like abs)
arch in upper back

Bent over

some movement of upper body
bar in towards upper chest
no arch in back

I am also confused what "arching of the upper back" means for a pendlay row.

[Blondell]

http://www.leanbodiesfitness.com/showthread.php?t=11525

[Sandy]

http://www.leanbodiesfitness.com/showthread.php?t=11525

Thanks Blondell, I have looked at that thread and the video and done some google searches. Still confused about the difference.

[Blondell]

W/ pendlay's the weight touches the floor. :)

[Sandy]

W/ pendlay's the weight touches the floor. :)

Is that the only difference...I keep reading about upper body movement and an arch in the upper back.

[Erik]

Is that the only difference...I keep reading about upper body movement and an arch in the upper back.

The upper back is, or rather should be, arched regardless of type of row. Or at least neutral. Otherwise you can't get proper scapular retraction.

[Sandy]

The upper back is, or rather should be, arched regardless of type of row. Or at least neutral. Otherwise you can't get proper scapular retraction.

Thank you.

What about movement?

The video on ExRx.net for a bent over row shows upper body movement. I don't move my upper body when doing this form of a row.

[smuggie]

The Pendlay row also requires a more explosive concentric.