Cardio for fat loss vs cardio for maintenance

[momoftwins]

I was just curious if this would or should change at all once you bring or are in the process of bringing your calories back up to maintanance.

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 04:57 PM
I was just curious if this would or should change at all once you bring or are in the process of bringing your calories back up to maintanance.
What would be the goal/purpose of your maintenance cardio?

[Strive2Define]

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:59 PM
What would be the goal/purpose of your maintenance cardio?
I would think most people would have to maintain at least some minimal cardio in order to maintain their current conditioning.??I realize that fat loss is a function of nutrition but wouldn't some cardio be beneficial?

[momoftwins]

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 03:59 PM
What would be the goal/purpose of your maintenance cardio?
Well, I believe cardio is important for other reasons other than fat loss, such as endurance, a healthy heart, etc. Also, since the metabolism is sometimes depressed coming off a low cal fat loss diet this may help keep the metabolism up while increasing calories. I thought maybe it's not good to shock the system or make too many changes all at once, first with increased calories then cutting cardio. Not sure about that though.

[Erik]

Originally posted by Strive2Define@Jun 6 2006, 05:06 PM
I would think most people would have to maintain at least some minimal cardio in order to maintain their current conditioning.??I realize that fat loss is a function of nutrition but wouldn't some cardio be beneficial?
Define conditioning ...

Endurance conditioning or bodyfat.

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:07 PM
Well, I believe cardio is important for other reasons other than fat loss, such as endurance, a healthy heart, etc. Also, since the metabolism is sometimes depressed coming off a low cal fat loss diet this may help keep the metabolism up while increasing calories. I thought maybe it's not good to shock the system or make too many changes all at once, first with increased calories then cutting cardio. Not sure about that though.
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:07 PM
Well, I believe cardio is important for other reasons other than fat loss, such as endurance, a healthy heart, etc. Also, since the metabolism is sometimes depressed coming off a low cal fat loss diet this may help keep the metabolism up while increasing calories. I thought maybe it's not good to shock the system or make too many changes all at once, first with increased calories then cutting cardio. Not sure about that though.
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio

[momoftwins]

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins+Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (momoftwins @ Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting. [/b][/quote]
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;)

[momoftwins]

Originally posted by Thunder+Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;) [/b][/quote]
Yes, I just have never been able to get away with eating that much w/o doing any cardio and not gain weight.

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins+Jun 6 2006, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (momoftwins @ Jun 6 2006, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;)
Yes, I just have never been able to get away with eating that much w/o doing any cardio and not gain weight. [/b][/quote]
Then you weren&#39;t eating maintenance. If you gained weight you were eating over maintenance.

[momoftwins]

Originally posted by Thunder+Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;)
Yes, I just have never been able to get away with eating that much w/o doing any cardio and not gain weight.
Then you weren&#39;t eating maintenance. If you gained weight you were eating over maintenance. [/b][/quote]
Well than I guess that 14xbodyweight is not accurate or too high for my maintenance then.

[PowerManDL]

Which is what has been said at least twice in other threads just today.

[Erik]

Originally posted by momoftwins+Jun 6 2006, 05:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (momoftwins @ Jun 6 2006, 05:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;)
Yes, I just have never been able to get away with eating that much w/o doing any cardio and not gain weight.
Then you weren&#39;t eating maintenance. If you gained weight you were eating over maintenance.
Well than I guess that 14xbodyweight is not accurate or too high for my maintenance then. [/b][/quote]
In that particular case, perhaps not. So you ate at 14X bodyweight and stopped all cardio previously?

Remember, all these maintenance suggestions are just starting points. You have to adjust based on your body.

[Erik]

Originally posted by PowerManDL@Jun 6 2006, 05:39 PM
Which is what has been said at least twice in other threads just today.
I was just thinking that. :lol:

[momoftwins]

Originally posted by Thunder+Jun 6 2006, 04:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ Jun 6 2006, 04:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:22 PM

Originally posted by momoftwins@Jun 6 2006, 05:16 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 04:11 PM
A caloric deficit is a caloric deficit whether you create it from energy expenditure or dietary restriction.

Eat more/do more cardio vs eat less/do less cardio
So basically you are saying, that one should be able to eat at manintenance calories, if you go by straight numbers that may be 1700 for me, and not do any cardio and still be able to maintain the fat/weight loss achieved through dieting.
Well ... it IS called maintenance, right? ;)
Yes, I just have never been able to get away with eating that much w/o doing any cardio and not gain weight.
Then you weren&#39;t eating maintenance. If you gained weight you were eating over maintenance.
Well than I guess that 14xbodyweight is not accurate or too high for my maintenance then.
In that particular case, perhaps not. So you ate at 14X bodyweight and stopped all cardio previously?

Remember, all these maintenance suggestions are just starting points. You have to adjust based on your body. [/b][/quote]
I was eating roughly 14xbodyweight and not doing cardio when I had knee surgery and gained weight.

I didn&#39;t read the other threads where it was possible to be at 12 or 13xbodyweight for maintenance, I apologize :huh:

[strongchick]

Is lifting enough for cardiovascular health? More high rep/metabolic work?

[Strive2Define]

Originally posted by Thunder@Jun 6 2006, 05:08 PM
Define conditioning ...

Endurance conditioning or bodyfat.
Well I am going to go out on a limb here and say endurance conditioning...I guess if one overeats they should know to add some cardio in to compensate.