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jrb1980
05-03-2006, 06:12 AM
Do any of you account for these. I am talking about things like sugar free syrup and jello, mustard, gum, etc. While each item is very low in calories they do add up. I would say I would add about 50 a day + a pack and a half of gum. That adds up to be a lot.

Q. Do you reduce calories total by an arbitrary amount to make up for incidental calories, forget about it, or calaculate these things???

Bernee
05-03-2006, 06:15 AM
I know I go crazy chewing lots of gum and I should count it but I don't.

jrb1980
05-03-2006, 06:17 AM
Originally posted by Bernee@May 3 2006, 05:15 AM
I know I go crazy chewing lots of gum and I should count it but I don't.
Me to. Very much addicted. A pack and a half is not uncommon. My secretary jokes that I think it is one of the food groups :(

Anyway, that is like 60 calories a pack so that is alarming. It would be easier to lower calories than lose the gym...tough perhpas not wise. :oops:

ladybug
05-03-2006, 12:08 PM
I don't chew gum or use sweet condiment type things (I do use mustard, vinegar, soy sauce), but I would guess that if you ARE chewing a lot of gum or using a lot of SF jam or syrup that yes, I would count those (at least a rough estimation included in your daily totals) :)

kszal
05-03-2006, 12:57 PM
I don't count 'em. :D

krispy1138
05-03-2006, 01:19 PM
If I think it will end up being 50 calories plus, I'll count it.

Erik
05-03-2006, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by jrb1980@May 3 2006, 01:12 AM
While each item is very low in calories they do add up.
Like you just said, it can add up at the end of the week.

Pandora
05-03-2006, 03:12 PM
I'm aware of what condiments I use and what their nutritional info is and while I don't count *all* of it, I am use them very sparingly and tend to keep a mental tally. I don't ever use enough to count, though.

Leah
05-03-2006, 04:12 PM
I don't count stuff like gum and mustard and if I'm using a SF "calorie free" product like syrup...I don't count it if I'm just using a bit, like less than a tbsp....but anything more than that I do count it cause it's not actually calorie free. Then again, if I am using some like SF syrup I'm usually cheating and not counting things anyway, lol. I always count dressings though.

Pinky
05-03-2006, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Leah@May 3 2006, 09:12 AM
I don't count stuff like gum and mustard and if I'm using a SF "calorie free" product like syrup...I don't count it if I'm just using a bit, like less than a tbsp....but anything more than that I do count it cause it's not actually calorie free. Then again, if I am using some like SF syrup I'm usually cheating and not counting things anyway, lol. I always count dressings though.
You consider SF syrup as a cheat? I eat it everyday with my cottage cheese. :(

Inatic
05-03-2006, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by Pinky+May 3 2006, 12:42 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pinky &#064; May 3 2006, 12:42 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Leah@May 3 2006, 09:12 AM
I don&#39;t count stuff like gum and mustard and if I&#39;m using a SF "calorie free" product like syrup...I don&#39;t count it if I&#39;m just using a bit, like less than a tbsp....but anything more than that I do count it cause it&#39;s not actually calorie free. Then again, if I am using some like SF syrup I&#39;m usually cheating and not counting things anyway, lol.* I always count dressings though.
You consider SF syrup as a cheat? I eat it everyday with my cottage cheese. :( [/b][/quote]

YIKES. I use the walden farms SF syrup, it has no cals/no carbs. Im not sure how they get away with that, but if trying to track them, how do you enter them when the bottle is of no help/lists a breakdown.
Yikes&#33;

Erik
05-03-2006, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by Inatic+May 3 2006, 02:34 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Inatic @ May 3 2006, 02:34 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Pinky@May 3 2006, 12:42 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Leah@May 3 2006, 09:12 AM
I don&#39;t count stuff like gum and mustard and if I&#39;m using a SF "calorie free" product like syrup...I don&#39;t count it if I&#39;m just using a bit, like less than a tbsp....but anything more than that I do count it cause it&#39;s not actually calorie free. Then again, if I am using some like SF syrup I&#39;m usually cheating and not counting things anyway, lol. I always count dressings though.
You consider SF syrup as a cheat? I eat it everyday with my cottage cheese. :(

YIKES. I use the walden farms SF syrup, it has no cals/no carbs. Im not sure how they get away with that, but if trying to track them, how do you enter them when the bottle is of no help/lists a breakdown.
Yikes&#33; [/b][/quote]
Post the ingredient list.

Inatic
05-03-2006, 07:58 PM
Walden Farms SF Pancake Syrup:

NO Carbs, No Cals :blink:

serv. size 1/4 c

Ingredients: Triple filtered purified water, maple flavor, natural flavors, maltodextrin, cellulose gum, salt, sucralose, potassium sorbate (to preserve freshness), lactic acid, beta carotine and caramel coloring.

Erik
05-03-2006, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by Inatic@May 3 2006, 02:58 PM
Walden Farms SF Pancake Syrup:

NO Carbs, No Cals :blink:

serv. size 1/4 c

Ingredients: Triple filtered purified water, maple flavor, natural flavors, maltodextrin, cellulose gum, salt, sucralose, potassium sorbate (to preserve freshness), lactic acid, beta carotine and caramel coloring.
Maltodextrin is sugar.

Inatic
05-03-2006, 08:06 PM
I know. How are they allowed to post NO to carbs/sug?

Guess it is the same like transfats? Per serv. ? That is what confuses me.

Other than not using the product, how do you track it?

Kathryn
05-03-2006, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Inatic@May 3 2006, 06:58 PM
Walden Farms SF Pancake Syrup:

NO Carbs, No Cals :blink:

serv. size 1/4 c

Ingredients: Triple filtered purified water, maple flavor, natural flavors, maltodextrin, cellulose gum, salt, sucralose, potassium sorbate (to preserve freshness), lactic acid, beta carotine and caramel coloring.
I used there products for such a long time (before I found the O2 board) I loved the fact that they had nothing in them...but I was thinking, there has to be a catch&#33;&#33;

jrb1980
05-03-2006, 08:55 PM
I think I need to really work at cutting this stuff out and really need to work on the gum issue.

Please tell me diet soda reallys is free&#33;&#33;&#33;

strongchick
05-03-2006, 09:27 PM
They can say zero if it is less than 5.

Diet soda has around 4 per 8 oz. Equal, splenda, etc., all around between 2-4 per packet.

jrb1980
05-04-2006, 01:09 AM
Strong chick - do you count them?

strongchick
05-04-2006, 02:35 AM
heck no

That&#39;s obsessive to me. Unless you&#39;re a competitor there is no reason to count splenda.

jrb1980
05-04-2006, 04:56 AM
Just ask because I think my incidentals are getting out of control - mostly gum though. I am going to try AGAIN to cut back and as of today am done with sugar free syrup for a while :(

clsupnorth
05-04-2006, 07:08 AM
Geez - with that much sugar free, gum, and diet pop, I&#39;d be more concerned about the amount of chemical sweeteners I was consuming, much less calories&#33;

But that&#39;s just me.

I think there&#39;s a point where you can become really anal about what you put in your mouth, counting each calorie down, but that seems more appropriate perhaps for a competitor on a cutting diet. For me, until I get my ass in gear to compete, I wouldn&#39;t worry about gum or very low calorie items. There&#39;s so much other stuff to focus on.

Erik
05-04-2006, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by clsupnorth@May 4 2006, 02:08 AM
Geez - with that much sugar free, gum, and diet pop, I&#39;d be more concerned about the amount of chemical sweeteners I was consuming, much less calories&#33;

But that&#39;s just me.

I think there&#39;s a point where you can become really anal about what you put in your mouth, counting each calorie down, but that seems more appropriate perhaps for a competitor on a cutting diet. For me, until I get my ass in gear to compete, I wouldn&#39;t worry about gum or very low calorie items. There&#39;s so much other stuff to focus on.
It&#39;s not really about being a competitor. There&#39;s nothing different b/w a competitor and a non competitor outside of the fact that the former needs to get leaner than the latter traditionally.

They still both are trying to lose fat and if something is preventing a person from progressing and losing fat, their set up needs to be reexamined. If they are progressing at a satisfactory rate, then there&#39;s really no need to fix what isn&#39;t broken.

jrb1980
05-04-2006, 08:52 PM
Yeah, I think I just treat these items like "what the hell" I have one diet soda a day but am ALWAYS chewing gum. This is a left over habit from an ED a long time ago when I lived on gum and coffee. :(

Anyway, the cost and the chemicals can&#39;t be good even if they are not hindering progress - though incidentals do make a diet easier to stick to. BUT, I figure if I am eating organic chicken why am I pounding SF chemicals. Anyway, I am going to make a concious effort to cut back.

collegegirl
05-04-2006, 09:09 PM
I also chew lots of sf gum and I don&#39;t count it in my calorie totals. It&#39;s weird that I count sf jam and syrup though, even if it&#39;s just 10 calories&#33; :lol: Yeah, maybe it&#39;s obsessive, but it really does add up at the end of the week.