Issues with Food [Archive] - Lean Bodies Fitness

Erik

05-03-2006, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Kathryn+May 3 2006, 05:23 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kathryn @ May 3 2006, 05:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FRESH@May 3 2006, 09:22 PM
problems in that sense ??
yep sure,....I'm just sick of having food ruining my life...I center my whole day around working out...it's horrible... [/b][/quote]
I suppose I do as well, but I think the big difference is the mindset one has. I'm always conscious of what I'm eating and am 9 times out of 10 eating towards a specific goal, but I have zero issues with that.

For me, eating a certain way, and training, and everything that comes with that is part of the lifestyle I live.

Brandi

05-03-2006, 09:47 PM

I had an issue...

Inatic

05-03-2006, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Thunder+May 3 2006, 05:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ May 3 2006, 05:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Kathryn@May 3 2006, 05:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-FRESH@May 3 2006, 09:22 PM
problems in that sense ??
yep sure,....I'm just sick of having food ruining my life...I center my whole day around working out...it's horrible...
I suppose I do as well, but I think the big difference is the mindset one has. I'm always conscious of what I'm eating and am 9 times out of 10 eating towards a specific goal, but I have zero issues with that.

For me, eating a certain way, and training, and everything that comes with that is part of the lifestyle I live. [/b][/quote]
To some extent, i guess we all have issues with food.

That is how i look at food too. What's is gonna do for me. Food=fuel. I dont let it control me though.

Kathryn

05-03-2006, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by strongchick@May 3 2006, 09:34 PM
That's speaks of an eating disorder.

Have you seen a therapist?
yeah, I have...I thought it was gone until this week I'm starting to have thoughts like that again...I have a good idea why too...I tend to have "control" over food and exercise when the rest of my life is out of my control...which it has been...

Kathryn

05-03-2006, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by Thunder+May 3 2006, 09:47 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Thunder @ May 3 2006, 09:47 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Kathryn@May 3 2006, 05:23 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-FRESH@May 3 2006, 09:22 PM
problems in that sense ??
yep sure,....I'm just sick of having food ruining my life...I center my whole day around working out...it's horrible...
I suppose I do as well, but I think the big difference is the mindset one has. I'm always conscious of what I'm eating and am 9 times out of 10 eating towards a specific goal, but I have zero issues with that.

For me, eating a certain way, and training, and everything that comes with that is part of the lifestyle I live. [/b][/quote]
Yeah, that's what I thought too but I think eventually it had gotten out of control... I took it way to far...(speaking of my past)

PowerManDL

05-03-2006, 11:26 PM

I like pizza too much.

Kathryn

05-03-2006, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by PowerManDL@May 3 2006, 11:26 PM
I like pizza too much.
:p :p

jrb1980

05-04-2006, 12:05 AM

I used to have an ED about 5 years ago it got pretty bad. Once I "saw the light" and started eating normal I gained like 30 pounds overnight...seriously though easily 20 pounds in a month. While I have "recovered" I have always been eating with a goal in mind, and accept that this will be my lifestyle.

I do hope though that one day I am more "normal" and it AND have a great body. Whether this happens or not we will see. If not, at least I am eating enough now to keep me healthy. But...I hear ya'.

Kathryn

05-04-2006, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by jrb1980@May 4 2006, 12:05 AM
I used to have an ED about 5 years ago it got pretty bad. Once I "saw the light" and started eating normal I gained like 30 pounds overnight...seriously though easily 20 pounds in a month. While I have "recovered" I have always been eating with a goal in mind, and accept that this will be my lifestyle.

I do hope though that one day I am more "normal" and it AND have a great body. Whether this happens or not we will see. If not, at least I am eating enough now to keep me healthy. But...I hear ya'.
I hear ya..I gained 20 lbs. within a month...and then some...a total of 35ish pounds...I had all types of ED...anorexia, bulemia, female athlete triad, night eating unknowingly..

lawstudent

05-04-2006, 12:14 AM

I did. I was bulimic. It wasn't until I started working with a (good) therapist to address the underlying issues that I started to recover. I still struggle with it, but it's easier now. Feel free to PM me if you want to talk.

Mandy

05-04-2006, 12:32 AM

There are a lot of therapists out there. There are also a ton of different specialties and so many areas that just get glossed over in the persuit to be a therapist. Believe me, I know. I would suggest looking for one that is either listed somewhere under an eating disorder or teenage counseling center or getting some sort of referral if you know anyone in your area that has been through this. Most people think of eating disorders as a major thing with teenagers and not so much with adults, so that may help. It takes time. A lot of time and the want to get better otherwise there is no amount of counseling that will help.

I spent 3 days total in all my undergrad persuit of a BA in Psychology on the different eating disorders and not a whole lot more than that on other topics. The more and more I"m around these forums the more and more I want to work in a high school or college setting dealing with those with eating disorders.

A preoccupation with food (oh, I dream of food at night and during the day and constantly battle the urge to just eat a ton of ice cream or chocolate) is one thing but when it turns detrimental where health is effected it's quite another. That goes both ways.

If you want, you can PM me about any of this :)

racerunner

05-04-2006, 12:55 AM

I read a quote somewhere that said "obssessed is just a word that the lazy use to describe the dedicated" and that quote vindicated all my quirks (eating and exercise ones anyway).

It's ok to control your food and your weight just make sure you have your health in mind not someone else's idea of perfection.

jrb1980

05-04-2006, 01:15 AM

I like that quote. I guess for me, say 5 years from now when I want to start a family, I hope I can sit down to dinner with them all without having to worry so much about what I am eating and the proper amounts. I don't really want my future daughter to ever see me bust out the food scale.

Erik

05-04-2006, 01:31 AM

Originally posted by Inatic@May 3 2006, 06:21 PM
That is how i look at food too. What's is gonna do for me. Food=fuel. I dont let it control me though.
Exactly.

I control food. It does not control me.

strongchick

05-04-2006, 01:34 AM

And that's the difference. If food controls you, as it seems to be in the OP, then it is a problem.

EDs are coping mechanisms. You say you use it for stress. I would think about seeing a professional. These aren't things that go away so easily. The true test of recovery is when they are gone even during times of stress....

Kathryn

05-04-2006, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by strongchick@May 4 2006, 01:34 AM
And that's the difference. If food controls you, as it seems to be in the OP, then it is a problem.

EDs are coping mechanisms. You say you use it for stress. I would think about seeing a professional. These aren't things that go away so easily. The true test of recovery is when they are gone even during times of stress....
true true..just lately I've had my whole life gone absolutely insane...I'm gonna go talk to my counseler tommorow...it's been 4 months since I last saw her...

Pandora

05-04-2006, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by jrb1980@May 3 2006, 08:15 PM
I don't really want my future daughter to ever see me bust out the food scale.
My son sees me bust out the food scale six times a day (less when he's not home or whatever.. :lol:). He is 9 now and knows about proper nutrition and why I usually measure and why sometimes I don't. The simple act of measuring food does not mean anything negative at all.

He eats normally and has a good handle on portion sizes. He thinks it's cool that his dad and I lift heavy and he'll probably emulate us and do the same one day. And when he does he'll know the difference between food being an obsession and using food as fuel to reach goals or manage health.

Kathryn

05-04-2006, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by Pandora@May 4 2006, 01:48 AM
My son sees me bust out the food scale six times a day (less when he's not home or whatever.. :lol:). He is 9 now and knows about proper nutrition and why I usually measure and why sometimes I don't. The simple act of measuring food does not mean anything negative at all.

He eats normally and has a good handle on portion sizes. He thinks it's cool that his dad and I lift heavy and he'll probably emulate us and do the same one day. And when he does he'll know the difference between food being an obsession and using food as fuel to reach goals or manage health.
You're a great role model for your kid...hopefully I'll be like that someday!

Pandora

05-04-2006, 02:02 AM

Thanks. :D

ladybug

05-04-2006, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by Thunder@May 4 2006, 01:31 AM
Exactly.

I control food. It does not control me.
This is so important. Unfortunately there is a very, very fine line for some people and that line is easy to cross.

hemi

05-04-2006, 04:43 PM

Brandi

05-04-2006, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by ladybug+May 3 2006, 11:20 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ladybug @ May 3 2006, 11:20 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Thunder@May 4 2006, 01:31 AM
Exactly.

I control food. It does not control me.
This is so important. Unfortunately there is a very, very fine line for some people and that line is easy to cross. [/b][/quote]
Exactly. And once you figure out what it means to be in control, your whole mindset changes. Like mine is FINALLY beginning too.

It is a process, and it sounds like the OP needs to see someone to figure out what the root of this could be.

racerunner

05-04-2006, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Pandora@May 3 2006, 08:48 PM
My son sees me bust out the food scale six times a day (less when he's not home or whatever.. :lol:). He is 9 now and knows about proper nutrition and why I usually measure and why sometimes I don't. The simple act of measuring food does not mean anything negative at all.

He eats normally and has a good handle on portion sizes. He thinks it's cool that his dad and I lift heavy and he'll probably emulate us and do the same one day. And when he does he'll know the difference between food being an obsession and using food as fuel to reach goals or manage health.

I AGREE and I wish everyone did what you do!

don't shoot but........

How come the heavy people don't have the stigma of having an ED?

Why do they get away with gorging themselves and not have to get therapy? It seems like food controls them too.

Why do I get nasty looks in the restaurant for ordering plain grilled chicken and steamed veggies NO BUTTER and they can order an appetizer, salad, entree, and dessert and everyone likes them?

OK Rant Over

Bella

05-04-2006, 05:41 PM

I am sorry you are struggling with food. I too, have been in the grips of an ED. I am finally in a recovery phase, but I have a long way to go. It is a painful reality somedays!
Good luck in your journey.

Lynda

05-04-2006, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Inatic@May 3 2006, 05:21 PM
That is how i look at food too. What's is gonna do for me. Food=fuel. I dont let it control me though.
I'm trying to work towards that Food=Fuel attitude.
not to the major "EXTREME" though...like for a Birthday Party, etc...I'll actually eat the cake and ice cream, just not HUGE portions.
I try to not let my "happiness" come from eating sugary junky foods like I used to...it's way better now than it was years ago! There's hope for everyone! :clap:

Kathryn

05-04-2006, 07:01 PM

Originally posted by Lynda@May 4 2006, 06:31 PM
I'm trying to work towards that Food=Fuel attitude.
not to the major "EXTREME" though...like for a Birthday Party, etc...I'll actually eat the cake and ice cream, just not HUGE portions.
I try to not let my "happiness" come from eating sugary junky foods like I used to...it's way better now than it was years ago! There's hope for everyone! :clap:
Gosh, I still can't eat ice cream and cake at parties and hollidays...I just have a hard time to give in...like for instance, at Easter my grandma makes lots of goooood food but all I had on my plate were veggies and a little chicken when everybody else was enjoying the good stuff...and of course had to say no to my favorite dessert, grape pie..and my b-day cake...my parents know better to get me a cake for my b-day...it's been like that for the past 3 years..

Lynda

05-04-2006, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Kathryn@May 4 2006, 02:01 PM

Gosh, I still can't eat ice cream and cake at parties and hollidays...I just have a hard time to give in...like for instance, at Easter my grandma makes lots of goooood food but all I had on my plate were veggies and a little chicken when everybody else was enjoying the good stuff...and of course had to say no to my favorite dessert, grape pie..and my b-day cake...my parents know better to get me a cake for my b-day...it's been like that for the past 3 years..
uhhh the past THREE YEARS!! oh my gosh...sounds like you're missing out a bit at the "Holidays" with family and friends...(not that FOOD should be the main focus at these events, but no one wants to be the carrot/celery muncher in the corner when everyone is celebrating at a child B-Day party - having a bit of DQ ice cream cake or something)
I do realize that the "competitors" will go without ANY type of "junk" or "cheat" food for weeks/ months at a time will a specific goal in mind...but 3 YEARS :blink:

Is this the way you actually like your nutrition / eating habits to be...or do you ever feel like maybe it is not quite a "balanced" nutritional diet ? Can you live your whole Lifetime this way?

Kathryn

05-04-2006, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by Lynda+May 4 2006, 07:30 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lynda @ May 4 2006, 07:30 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kathryn@May 4 2006, 02:01 PM

Gosh, I still can't eat ice cream and cake at parties and hollidays...I just have a hard time to give in...like for instance, at Easter my grandma makes lots of goooood food but all I had on my plate were veggies and a little chicken when everybody else was enjoying the good stuff...and of course had to say no to my favorite dessert, grape pie..and my b-day cake...my parents know better to get me a cake for my b-day...it's been like that for the past 3 years..
uhhh the past THREE YEARS!! oh my gosh...sounds like you're missing out a bit at the "Holidays" with family and friends...(not that FOOD should be the main focus at these events, but no one wants to be the carrot/celery muncher in the corner when everyone is celebrating at a child B-Day party - having a bit of DQ ice cream cake or something)
I do realize that the "competitors" will go without ANY type of "junk" or "cheat" food for weeks/ months at a time will a specific goal in mind...but 3 YEARS :blink:

Is this the way you actually like your nutrition / eating habits to be...or do you ever feel like maybe it is not quite a "balanced" nutritional diet ? Can you live your whole Lifetime this way? [/b][/quote]
well I've had a couple of times where I would binge on cake, but never at parties/holidays or anywhere in public...no, i don't want to be like that, but I feel like I shouldn't be eating it...like I feel that if I'm not to where I want to be with my body then I don't deserve to have anything like that...my cheats right now are basically processed foods that are somewhat healthy...like regular pb (which is gross so I don't know why I choose that) whole wheat bread, some crackers...that's about it...I still can't give in to junky food...I tried sunday night but felt way to guilty and purged it :eek: :finger: I haven't done that for 5 months now...It was just the frosting/filling of 4/5 doughnuts too..nothing too serious...

AgKitty

05-04-2006, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by racerunner@May 4 2006, 12:29 PM

I AGREE and I wish everyone did what you do!

don't shoot but........

How come the heavy people don't have the stigma of having an ED?

Why do they get away with gorging themselves and not have to get therapy? It seems like food controls them too.

Why do I get nasty looks in the restaurant for ordering plain grilled chicken and steamed veggies NO BUTTER and they can order an appetizer, salad, entree, and dessert and everyone likes them?

OK Rant Over
Not everyone who is big got that way by gorging on food. You can be fat without allowing food to control you.

Lynda

05-04-2006, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by AgKitty@May 4 2006, 02:39 PM
Not everyone who is big got that way by gorging on food. You can be fat without allowing food to control you.
I believe this is true too!
there are soo many factors, besides your calorie consumption.
STRESS can play such a huge role in mocking insulin spikes and easily creating an environment within your body that can find a way to turn carrot sticks into FAT! There is a huge phycho - emotional - connection to our bodies it's almost unbelievable!
I really don't know a whole lot about this, so I'll stop commenting, I'm in over my head :shutit: don't want to post about stuff I don't know for sure :shutit:

Lynda

05-04-2006, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by Kathryn@May 4 2006, 02:36 PM
well I've had a couple of times where I would binge on cake, but never at parties/holidays or anywhere in public...no, i don't want to be like that, but I feel like I shouldn't be eating it...like I feel that if I'm not to where I want to be with my body then I don't deserve to have anything like that...my cheats right now are basically processed foods that are somewhat healthy...like regular pb (which is gross so I don't know why I choose that) whole wheat bread, some crackers...that's about it...I still can't give in to junky food...I tried sunday night but felt way to guilty and purged it :eek: :finger: I haven't done that for 5 months now...It was just the frosting/filling of 4/5 doughnuts too..nothing too serious...
Oh Kathryn, I wish I knew the right things to say - but I don't...so I won't.

Just know that you're not alone :( - I have no experience with the type of situation that you're describing, but I wish you all the best :)

lawstudent

05-04-2006, 10:39 PM

Originally posted by Kathryn+May 4 2006, 02:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kathryn @ May 4 2006, 02:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kathryn@May 4 2006, 02:01 PM

I still can't give in to junky food...I tried sunday night but felt way to guilty and purged it :eek: :finger: I haven't done that for 5 months now...It was just the frosting/filling of 4/5 doughnuts too..nothing too serious... [/b][/quote]
Kathryn--have you seen a therapist? This looks like very disordered behavior to me. And it is serious.

rachel.

05-05-2006, 12:00 AM

i dont eat junk at all. i completely avoid it.

but i mean, if my mom makes brownies im going to have one you know? its if you eat them every day that it has an effect.

ladybug

05-05-2006, 10:10 AM

that's pretty contradictory :confused:

Strive2Define

05-05-2006, 11:09 AM

"-- Rachel

Stats: 19; 5'10", 118lbs
Goals: To be happy and healthy in all aspects of my life"

From your stats above, it seems you could afford to eat several brownies a day.
I'm not trying to be mean but sheesh, why are you so concerned about it with those stats?

strongchick

05-05-2006, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by Kathryn+May 4 2006, 07:36 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kathryn @ May 4 2006, 07:36 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kathryn@May 4 2006, 02:01 PM

...no, i don't want to be like that, but I feel like I shouldn't be eating it...like I feel that if I'm not to where I want to be with my body then I don't deserve to have anything like that...my cheats right now are basically processed foods that are somewhat healthy...like regular pb (which is gross so I don't know why I choose that) whole wheat bread, some crackers...that's about it...I still can't give in to junky food...I tried sunday night but felt way to guilty and purged it :eek: :finger: I haven't done that for 5 months now...It was just the frosting/filling of 4/5 doughnuts too..nothing too serious...

[/b][/quote]
If you are purging, you need to talk to your therapist ASAP. One purge can kill you.

You don't deserve food? If I were you, I would lessen up on the food rules and ALLOW yourself to actually enjoy it. There is too much black/white thinking going on here, and if you don't allow yourself the pleasure of eating you will not recover.

krispy1138

05-05-2006, 01:53 PM

Originally posted by Strive2Define@May 5 2006, 05:09 AM
"-- Rachel

Stats: 19; 5'10", 118lbs
Goals: To be happy and healthy in all aspects of my life"

From your stats above, it seems you could afford to eat several brownies a day.
I'm not trying to be mean but sheesh, why are you so concerned about it with those stats?
FYI - In Rachel's defense, she posted previously on O2 that she is trying to gain weight and asked for help in doing it in a healthy way.

Erik

05-05-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by ladybug@May 5 2006, 06:10 AM
that's pretty contradictory :confused:
:lol: :lol:

sweetpea_123

05-05-2006, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Pandora@May 3 2006, 08:48 PM
My son sees me bust out the food scale six times a day (less when he's not home or whatever.. :lol:). He is 9 now and knows about proper nutrition and why I usually measure and why sometimes I don't. The simple act of measuring food does not mean anything negative at all.

He eats normally and has a good handle on portion sizes. He thinks it's cool that his dad and I lift heavy and he'll probably emulate us and do the same one day. And when he does he'll know the difference between food being an obsession and using food as fuel to reach goals or manage health.
Thank god, I am always using a food scale or measuring cups, lol. My kids think I am nutty, but in a good way. My youngest daughter likes to help me, and sometimes she asks me if she should go on a "diet". I tell her she is already on a diet, because diet just means what you eat! . . .Then I tickle her. I don't think talking about portions and food with my kids is bad. (My mother does, though :wacko: ) But I think with obesity on the rise, its not a bad thing.

CraveMuscle

05-05-2006, 06:58 PM

my brother and I have made our own lunches since we were 6 since we hated the food combos she used for sandwiches (like neither one of us could stand mustard, and my mom loved it).

anyways, she let us continue to do it as long as we generally made healthy things. we still had some junk, but she would make suggestions on "honey, you really need some fruit or veggies in there instead of just carbs".

she tells me that the pediatrician always told her that the only thing you can't control for your kids is their bowel movements and what they eat.

jaleena

05-05-2006, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by sweetpea_123+May 5 2006, 04:55 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sweetpea_123 @ May 5 2006, 04:55 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Pandora@May 3 2006, 08:48 PM

I don't think talking about portions and food with my kids is bad. (My mother does, though :wacko: ) But I think with obesity on the rise, its not a bad thing. [/b][/quote]
No, it's definitely not bad. They'll learn it from somewhere, and if it's not from you, there's a good chance that what they learn is going to be screwy.

AgKitty, I'm just chiming in that Racerunner had a really good point about the veggies. I can't order a cheat meal of chicken with Jack cheese, mashed potatoes, and veggies, followed by dessert, without getting hounded for having the veggies plain (hate slimy veggies) and no gravy on the mashed potatoes (have hated gravy since before I could spell it). You'd think the restaurant portion of cheese (4oz, minimum) and dessert would make somebody think I'm not ED, but they just focus on the small modifications.

rachel.

05-05-2006, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by krispy1138+May 5 2006, 08:53 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (krispy1138 @ May 5 2006, 08:53 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Strive2Define@May 5 2006, 05:09 AM
"-- Rachel

Stats: 19; 5'10", 118lbs
Goals: To be happy and healthy in all aspects of my life"

From your stats above, it seems you could afford to eat several brownies a day.
I'm not trying to be mean but sheesh, why are you so concerned about it with those stats?
FYI - In Rachel's defense, she posted previously on O2 that she is trying to gain weight and asked for help in doing it in a healthy way. [/b][/quote]
Thank you Krispy :)

I'm sorry, let me rephrase what I said.

What I meant was I don't eat junk food on a regular basis and do not have scheduled cheat meals and what not. But if there is something made for me from a friend, family, etc then I'm not going to avoid it.

I would rather gain my weight through healthier foods :) Sorry if I caused some confusion :oops: I've just lost my taste for packaged cookies and stuff thats all