Diet Change?

[DianeD]

I've been told by my Dr that a pregnant woman needs an additional 300 calories/day in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. With that said, is it logical to assume that I could still follow Thunder's eating plan with the exception of an additional 300/day in the 2nd & 3rd tri's? That is IF I become pregnant.

[CraveMuscle]

is the current plan a maintenance plan?

[dearest22]

Originally posted by Whoamama@May 8 2006, 04:02 PM
I've been told by my Dr that a pregnant woman needs an additional 300 calories/day in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. With that said, is it logical to assume that I could still follow Thunder's eating plan with the exception of an additional 300/day in the 2nd & 3rd tri's? That is IF I become pregnant.
oh, thanks for that info! haha, i just posted a thread asking about this. :)

[liberty]

Originally posted by Whoamama@May 8 2006, 11:02 AM
I've been told by my Dr that a pregnant woman needs an additional 300 calories/day in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. With that said, is it logical to assume that I could still follow Thunder's eating plan with the exception of an additional 300/day in the 2nd & 3rd tri's? That is IF I become pregnant.
Given that I don't have a clue what Thunder's plan is I can't really say. If it is high protein, low carb, there are major reasons why that is harmful for a growing fetus. If it is just healthy well rounded eating with no low/no carb days I am sure it is fine. Perhaps bring it to your ob/gyn and show them and get their approval.
C

[strongchick]

I agree. It would be smarter to get a book on pregnancy nutrition. You don't want to go too low carb (or even moderate) or you risk compromising fetal brain development.

[DianeD]

I think you guys are right. My pln now consists of high protein/low carb. Not good for a pregnant woman. I will, however, ask my og/yn what changes I could make to the diet.

[fitnesschick]

you still need to get alot of protein .. but also need lost of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, healthy fats. if you follow your hunger and eat healthy foods, then you will do fine :)

here's a good breakdown :

protein - 4 servings
vit C foods - 2 servings
calcium foods - 4 servings
green leafy veggies/yellow fruits/veggies - 3 servings
whole grains and other complex carbs - 4-6 servings
high fat foods - 2 daily

good luck! :)

[magic]

Originally posted by Whoamama@May 8 2006, 09:02 AM
I've been told by my Dr that a pregnant woman needs an additional 300 calories/day in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters. With that said, is it logical to assume that I could still follow Thunder's eating plan with the exception of an additional 300/day in the 2nd & 3rd tri's? That is IF I become pregnant.
I would think that if you do become pregnant and are working with Thunder and wish to continue working with him through the pregnancy, that Thunder could probably work with you to adjust your diet/exercise to what your ob/gyn recommends. The Thunderous-one is so easy to work with and just an email away. :)

[Leah]

Originally posted by liberty@May 8 2006, 01:02 PM
Given that I don't have a clue what Thunder's plan is I can't really say. If it is high protein, low carb, there are major reasons why that is harmful for a growing fetus. If it is just healthy well rounded eating with no low/no carb days I am sure it is fine. Perhaps bring it to your ob/gyn and show them and get their approval.
C
It's whatever she needs it to be :huh: He doesn't just have one diet he hands out.

[DianeD]

The reason for my question really is that at my gym there is a woman who is about 7mths pregnant and looks amazing! She squats, does lunges, etc. and still has some really good muscle definition. That got me wondering how she can be with child and look so good.

[strongchick]

Originally posted by Leah+May 9 2006, 07:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leah @ May 9 2006, 07:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-liberty@May 8 2006, 01:02 PM
Given that I don&#39;t have a clue what Thunder&#39;s plan is I can&#39;t really say. If it is high protein, low carb, there are major reasons why that is harmful for a growing fetus. If it is just healthy well rounded eating with no low/no carb days I am sure it is fine. Perhaps bring it to your ob/gyn and show them and get their approval.
C
It&#39;s whatever she needs it to be :huh: He doesn&#39;t just have one diet he hands out. [/b][/quote]
Good point. If you want to stay on a plan, you can talk to your OB and ask Erik to make a plan based off recommendations.

All I know is that the carb level is usually pretty high. The books I read also say that protein needs to be increased to (GASP&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;) 70 grams&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;

[Erik]

Originally posted by strongchick+May 9 2006, 08:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (strongchick @ May 9 2006, 08:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Leah@May 9 2006, 07:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-liberty@May 8 2006, 01:02 PM
Given that I don&#39;t have a clue what Thunder&#39;s plan is I can&#39;t really say. If it is high protein, low carb, there are major reasons why that is harmful for a growing fetus. If it is just healthy well rounded eating with no low/no carb days I am sure it is fine. Perhaps bring it to your ob/gyn and show them and get their approval.
C
It&#39;s whatever she needs it to be :huh: He doesn&#39;t just have one diet he hands out.
Good point. If you want to stay on a plan, you can talk to your OB and ask Erik to make a plan based off recommendations.

All I know is that the carb level is usually pretty high. The books I read also say that protein needs to be increased to (GASP&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33;) 70 grams&#33;&#33;&#33;&#33; [/b][/quote]
70g? :blink:

What about kidney damage? :ban:

[3sweeties]

OMG, this thread has me laughing. When I was pg, my stomach dictated what I ate. Foods I loved became revolting, I couldn&#39;t gag down leafy greens. I craved fruit with lots of salt. No advice.

[Leah]

Originally posted by 3sweeties@May 9 2006, 08:55 AM
OMG, this thread has me laughing. When I was pg, my stomach dictated what I ate. Foods I loved became revolting, I couldn&#39;t gag down leafy greens. I craved fruit with lots of salt. No advice.
Yeah....for me...I couldn&#39;t imagine being preggos and having to be on a specific diet :suicide:

[DianeD]

A friend of mine who WAS in great shape gained 68 lbs. with her first child&#33;&#33;&#33; And she&#39;s only 5&#39;3"&#33;&#33; She never did lose all the extra weight, she&#39;s now pregnant with #2. She ate lots of pasta and bread - she sure upped her carb intake.

[Dane]

HAHAHAHA&#33; The road to hell is paved with good intentions, right?

Meaning....you may plan the Perfect Pregnancy Diet, and then your body (I always blame it on the baby, actually) will TELL you what you can and cannot eat. Not always inline with your Perfect Plan, :p

Basically, don&#39;t stress about it. Lots of women are in ketosis by default the first trimester (due to barfing, morning sickness, nausea, food aversions), and babies are born just fine. However.... since research on pregnant women is generally frowned upon, docs can only speculate about the effects of ketosis on a developing fetus. I would say it&#39;s probably not wise to spend your entire 9 months in ketosis, and, considering the most common cravigs are for carbs anyway, it would seem your body would agree. I&#39;d try to get a minimum of 100gC, net, and include some fruit, to keep out of ketosis, after the 1st trimester especially.

High protein is fine&#33; Just not necessary. When your calories and carbs go up, you become more efficient at absorbing protein, and your requirements go down a bit. Aim for a minimum 1g/#LBM, and you&#39;ll be fine.

TRY to eat right. TRY to get in adequate protein and some fruit and veg. This time around (I&#39;m currently 13 weeks), the Baby has decided chicken and pork is gross, but eggs, cheese, milk, protein powder, and beef are acceptable. And tuna, :blink:

If you want to avoid the big weight gains, do your best to get some exercise, lift, and avoid the really crappy junk food (tho a little every now and then won&#39;t hurt you).

Your weight gain, according to my pregnancy bible, "What to Expect When You&#39;re Expecting", says the first trimester you should have about a 3-4# gain, then every week through the 8th month, a pound a week, and then the last month it tapers to about half a pound a week, or less.

I monitor my weight, and plan to adjust my eating up or down, as needed. So far, I&#39;m right on target with a 4# gain.

HTH&#33;

[Tina]

Agreed. Pregnant woman should not be overly worried about their diet. You do the best you can. Now having said that, it doesn&#39;t mean go to McD&#39;s every day for nine months because "that&#39;s what the baby wants".

This is a time where your body is going to do what it needs to do to have a healthy baby, and yes that means gaining some fat. That&#39;s the way it goes.

[MicheleSC]

Originally posted by Leah@May 9 2006, 08:58 AM
Yeah....for me...I couldn&#39;t imagine being preggos and having to be on a specific diet :suicide:


:laugh: I agree&#33;


This goes along with some of what dane said - you can have the best intentions of eating a certain way, but your body sort of tells you what it wants/needs and gains what it wants to a certain extent. If you shovel down crap the whole time, yeah you&#39;ll gain weight, but I know people who have controlled their diet with a second child because of a large weight gain with the first and they still gained just as much.
I didn&#39;t want to eat anything the first trimester, but carbs were about all I could stomach. Protein and the thought of it made me gag for a long time. In the second trimester I felt better and got back to eating more protein.
You can certainly try to eat any way you like, though and see how it goes. :)

Everyone is different with the weight gain. Some people gain a lot in the first trimester and then don&#39;t gain much the rest of the time, some people gain steadily the whole time. I have gained 20 pounds (31+ weeks) and I gained this same amount of weight at this time with my first child, but with her, the heat came on and I swelled A LOT and that added a lot of weight to me that I couldn&#39;t really control. That hasn&#39;t happened yet with this baby, but June isn&#39;t here yet :) I lost all of it almost immediately. I&#39;m trying to keep my water intake up to help keep the swelling away - I was not very good about drinking water with my first child.

[DianeD]

I gained 35 lbs with my first child. I don&#39;t consider that to be too much. I watched what I ate and had the occasional treat. I even worked out the day before I gave birth. But I am trying to figure out a way to hang on to my hard-earned muscle without turning too "squishy".

[fitnesschick]

the protein is necessary for the baby&#39;s development and also helps pregnant women avoid toxemia. 70 g is actually not unreasonable although i don&#39;t htink i ate that amount during any of my pregnancies.

the thing about weight gain is that it is so individual and depends on lots of factors. being pregnant i always loved eating - one of the perks of being pregnant :)
i don&#39;t know how much weight i gained in my last 2 pregancies but after all my babies (4) i lost all the weight and think i look better now than ever.

eat well, eat healthy and don&#39;t worry about the muscle thing. it&#39;s an amazing time in a woman&#39;s life and it passes so quickly. you have the rest of your life to worry about your muscles :)

[liberty]

Originally posted by Leah+May 9 2006, 06:48 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leah @ May 9 2006, 06:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-liberty@May 8 2006, 01:02 PM
Given that I don&#39;t have a clue what Thunder&#39;s plan is I can&#39;t really say. If it is high protein, low carb, there are major reasons why that is harmful for a growing fetus. If it is just healthy well rounded eating with no low/no carb days I am sure it is fine. Perhaps bring it to your ob/gyn and show them and get their approval.
C
It&#39;s whatever she needs it to be :huh: He doesn&#39;t just have one diet he hands out. [/b][/quote]
I know that. I was trying to emphasize that I can&#39;t comment on something I would not be privvy to.
C

[theresak]

You can plan, but be prepared to go with the flow.

Like the other moms have said - sometimes your body will just refuse to allow certain foods in the same room&#33; Listen to your body, and just try to eat smart.

[dare]

Originally posted by Whoamama@May 8 2006, 10:02 AM
I&#39;ve been told by my Dr that a pregnant woman needs an additional 300 calories/day in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters.
Is this supposed to be 300 cal/day more than one is currently eating (even if one is dieting?) OR, is it supposed to be 300cals above maintenance cals?

[strongchick]

Originally posted by dare@May 12 2006, 04:10 PM
Is this supposed to be 300 cal/day more than one is currently eating (even if one is dieting?) OR, is it supposed to be 300cals above maintenance cals?
300 above maintenance. You need that 300 for fetal growth.

[dare]

Originally posted by strongchick@May 12 2006, 02:57 PM
300 above maintenance. You need that 300 for fetal growth.
So, if one is eating below maintenance now, when you get pregnant, do you start eating 300cals over maintenance right away?? Wouldn&#39;t that result in major weight gain right off the bat? Is that okay?

[fitnesschick]

follow your own body&#39;s signals for hunger and make sure you are eating nutritious choices :) try not to worry about the fat gain ... your body knows what it is doing&#33;

[strongchick]

Originally posted by dare@May 23 2006, 04:18 PM
So, if one is eating below maintenance now, when you get pregnant, do you start eating 300cals over maintenance right away?? Wouldn&#39;t that result in major weight gain right off the bat? Is that okay?
300 cals is hardly massive weight gain.

If you&#39;re eating below maintenance and want to start trying, yes I would move up to maintenance.

[trigirl]

Originally posted by 3sweeties@May 9 2006, 07:55 AM
OMG, this thread has me laughing. When I was pg, my stomach dictated what I ate. Foods I loved became revolting, I couldn&#39;t gag down leafy greens. I craved fruit with lots of salt. No advice.
Same here. Sometimes fruit, sometimes chips, sometimes good ol mac and cheese. Any specific diet plan wasn&#39;t even thought of&#33; :)

[dare]

How many cals do you need to eat in the first trimester?

[jrb1980]

There are various arguments on this point dare. Some say you need 300 others, but I have seen recommendations as low as 60 by doctors. I would suggest just make sure you are eating at maintenance and above and beyond that listen to your body. The increase in calories is most important in the third trimester.