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Tearose
11-02-2006, 03:27 AM
I am thinking of taking this course just wanted to get some feedback...http://www.thomsoneducationdirect.com.au/index.cfm?id=377

mich56
11-02-2006, 03:35 AM
This looks good...I am in a similar couse at the Canadian School of Natural Nutrition. Although, I must say that the course that I am taking does not have so much info on the sports side...which is something that I would really like to have...

Let me know how it goes! Good luck!

Michelle

Aaron_F
11-02-2006, 06:17 AM
are you wanting to do it for your own interest, or to go towards a career in sports nutrition?

Tearose
11-02-2006, 08:48 AM
both. I am going to be taking a physical trainbing course and I thought this would go well with it, most of the trainers I have met in the gyms don't seem to know much about nutrition.

jrb1980
11-02-2006, 03:56 PM
both. I am going to be taking a physical trainbing course and I thought this would go well with it, most of the trainers I have met in the gyms don't seem to know much about nutrition.

But that is because they are trainers.

Here is a questions - should trainers be nutritionists and visa versa, or should they focus on being really good at what they do - one or the other. I get a little leary about many trainers giving their clients nutritional advice to lose weight without any understanding of their body, their medical background, medications, etc.

I do think there are exceptions to this, like Erik for example, but in general I think people generally excell at one or the other.

thefuture
11-02-2006, 06:27 PM
both. I am going to be taking a physical trainbing course and I thought this would go well with it, most of the trainers I have met in the gyms don't seem to know much about nutrition.

I had a PT tell me I could eat a croissant before I came for my workout!

Tearose
11-02-2006, 07:54 PM
Jacquiec ~ :lol:


I think trainers should know about nutrition, they go hand in hand, sorry but I don't take trainers that don'talso have a good knowledge of nutrition very seriously, thats just my opinion. I want to someday be the kind of trainer/coach that Erik is, I don't know if I will be even close to as good as he is, but I will try!

Aaron_F
11-02-2006, 08:56 PM
If you are in australia, I would check the legal requirements for practicing as a nutritionist. I cant remember them off my head, but I would suspect that the likes of Gyms would require a specific education, whether thats through thte australian institute of sport or something similar. that may be sports dietitian tho, been awhile since I looked at aussie stuff.

Tearose
11-03-2006, 04:15 AM
Thanks Aaron :)

jrb1980
11-03-2006, 05:20 AM
In Canada there is a big push to make it so that only dieticians can use the more title nutritionist. Tearose, I think it is great that you want to have a better grasp of nutrition than most trainers, I just think to many people take online courses in nutrition and then feel qualified to give nutritional advice. For young healthy people it's pretty straight forward, but it can get more complicated and depending on the meds a bit more controversial - that's all.

Aaron_F
11-03-2006, 07:24 AM
Here there can be

1) Dietitians - Achieve a BSc in Human Nutrition followed by a Post Graduate Diploma in Dietetics, relates to about ~4.5 years of education
2) Registered Nutritionist - RElated degree in nutrition + two years relevant work experience including references saying how great you are. ~3 years of education and 2years of work
3) Nutritionist - anybody anytime anywhere ~0 years of education

char-dawg
11-03-2006, 08:28 AM
Here is a questions - should trainers be nutritionists and visa versa, or should they focus on being really good at what they do - one or the other. I get a little leary about many trainers giving their clients nutritional advice to lose weight without any understanding of their body, their medical background, medications, etc.

I do think there are exceptions to this, like Erik for example, but in general I think people generally excell at one or the other.
If you're going to be in the business of changing people's bodies (and that's what "gym trainers" usually are - people who specialize in athletic performance are usually hired by teams), you have to know something about nutrition as well as exercise. That said, it doesn't take a master's degree to tell someone how to lose/gain weight. Erik has more and better knowledge than most, but this is due to his being involved in contest prep, which is a far more specialized process.

Also, it would be both foolish and futile to expect a gym trainer - of any level of sophistication - to know specifics about how foods interact with various meds. You need a doctor for that, period.

Of course more knowledge is better than less, so I'm all for continuing one's education. But don't forget what it is that you're aiming to do. Getting someone "in shape" isn't rocket science.

Aaron_F
11-04-2006, 04:47 AM
That said, it doesn't take a master's degree to tell someone how to lose/gain weight. Erik has more and better knowledge than most, but this is due to his being involved in contest prep, which is a far more specialized process.


But he also holds two seperate degrees :D

char-dawg
11-04-2006, 05:28 AM
But he also holds two seperate degrees :D
Neither of which is a Master's. :razz1:

Aaron_F
11-04-2006, 08:03 AM
but both of which are about 100 times more than "gym trainers" have

:)

char-dawg
11-04-2006, 10:01 AM
Well...

I said, "it doesn't take a master's degree to tell someone how to lose/gain weight."

Erik is very good at telling people how to lose weight.

Erik doesn't have a Master's degree.

Ergo: I'm right. :lol:

jrb1980
11-04-2006, 05:06 PM
BUT (and I;m sure he will correct me if I am wrong) Erik's understanding comes from his experience and studies OUTSIDE and IN ADDITION to his degree. My poiint to the original poster was that the course she suggested taking likely won't give her the kind of knowledge we discuss on this board.

I.e. the course was sparse at best in sports nutrition

Aaron_F
11-05-2006, 01:52 AM
Well...

I said, "it doesn't take a master's degree to tell someone how to lose/gain weight."

Erik is very good at telling people how to lose weight.

Erik doesn't have a Master's degree.

Ergo: I'm right. :lol:

can you show me where I said you were wrong?

:kiss:

char-dawg
11-05-2006, 09:00 AM
Sure. It's the post right below the one where I said you said I was wrong.

:kiss: :kiss: ;)