Coffee

[jackieleigh]

I know alot of people here drink their coffee, I am just wondering if there is a thing as "too much coffee" (especially if you work woth Erik). I find I drink about 4-6 large mugs a day. I don't put anything in it so there are no added calories in it. Thoughts?

[Tony]

I know alot of people here drink their coffee, I am just wondering if there is a thing as "too much coffee" (especially if you work woth Erik). I find I drink about 4-6 large mugs a day. I don't put anything in it so there are no added calories in it. Thoughts?

There was some big debate a while back about caffeine negatively affecting insulin resistance.... I think. Anyone?

[ashleyk]

I drink about the same as you. I managed to get lean while doing it....not that I'm lean now but that wasnt the question....lol

[Ana]

4-6 lg mugs? :shock: that seems like an awful lot!
I have 1-2 cups a day. I'm with you jackieliegh, nothing in it just black.
Sorry I got nothing of help to offer.

[Leah]

how does anyone get their water in when they're drinking 6 cups of coffee a day :uhuh:

[Strive2Define]

I drink 2 gallons of water per day and drink between 4-6 cups per day myself.I start drinking water the minute my feet hit the floor and don't stop until I go to bed..I usually get up at least 2x per night.

[Tony]

how does anyone get their water in when they're drinking 6 cups of coffee a day :uhuh:

I carry around a huge jug of water that nicely compliments my bodybuffer pants and fanny pack.

[mcv]

Erik has never specifically told me to limit coffee or diet soda - I am not comp prepping or anything though.

[amyloo]

I drink 2 gallons of water per day and drink between 4-6 cups per day myself.I start drinking water the minute my feet hit the floor and don't stop until I go to bed..I usually get up at least 2x per night.

Me too...I like to call it 2 cups of coffee per day, but let's get real. They are large travel coffee mugs that are the equivalent of 2 cups EACH! :shock:
Add that to my 6-8 liters per day of water, plus diet coke and sometimes some crystal light. :wavesad:

[Rafferty]

how does anyone get their water in when they're drinking 6 cups of coffee a day :uhuh:

Why wouldn't coffee count toward water intake?

[Cass]

I carry around a huge jug of water that nicely compliments my bodybuffer pants and fanny pack.
:lol3:

[Aaron_F]

how does anyone get their water in when they're drinking 6 cups of coffee a day :uhuh:
probably with the 6 cups of water people are drinking to dilute their coffee

:funny:

[jmadog]

i have cut out caffeine for the past 3 weeks and have never felt better. I used to have 2 cups in the morning and another usually starbucks at around 4pm. At first I had headaches for about two days, but now that I am off caffeine i don't get that drop in energy late in the day that i used to. i have more energy and feel better. how does having 6 cups of coffee make you feel? If you feel fine than i don't see a problem with it otherwise i would recomend going off it for a while and see how you feel.

[Strive2Define]

but now that I am off caffeine i don't get that drop in energy late in the day that i used to.
This is when I have the 4-6 cup of coffee.:lol3:

[jaleena]

I have no problems with drinking coffee, sometimes in large amounts (I drink it when I'm bored/tired/aggravated/anxious/etc at work). I usually have a couple cups Sunday morning, but otherwise, none on the weekend, and no withdrawal problems. I see no benefit in quitting.

[absolut_blonde]

I drink 1-2 cups a day. 1 cup in the morning, always, and then another cup of coffee or green tea later on in the day.

Any more than that, and I get unpleasant side-effects-- shakiness, nausea, nervousness, etc.

As far as I know, most studies show that moderate coffee intake (2-3 cups a day) is fine and may even be beneficial. I think it's been shown to be negatively correlated with Alzheimer's, for one. 6 cups a day would be way too much for me, personally (too much coffee just makes me FEEL unhealthy, if that makes sense) but I don't know if there are any specific drawbacks associated with higher intake.

[Blondell]

Why wouldn't coffee count toward water intake?
b/c it acts as a diuretic

[dolce]

one cup in the morning, and one in the afternoon before the gym
also get 5 liters of water in:morning:

[jackieleigh]

Well on top of my coffee I am still drinking 5+ liters of water a day. Maybe I will slowly try to cut back, but I am not willing to give it up!! I just love my coffee! It keeps me warm, keeps me from eating, and keeps my energy up

[Aaron_F]

b/c it acts as a diuretic

Coffee is not a diuretic per se,

caffeine may be, but its effects are hugely over rated.

Fluid, electrolyte, and renal indices of hydration during 11 days of controlled caffeine consumption.Armstrong LE, Pumerantz AC, Roti MW, Judelson DA, Watson G, Dias JC, Sokmen B, Casa DJ, Maresh CM, Lieberman H, Kellogg M.
University of Connecticut, Human Performance Laboratory, Storrs, CT 06269, USA.

This investigation determined if 3 levels of controlled caffeine consumption affected fluid-electrolyte balance and renal function differently. Healthy males (mean +/- standard deviation; age, 21.6 +/- 3.3 y) consumed 3 mg caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1). on days 1 to 6 (equilibration phase). On days 7 to 11 (treatment phase), subjects consumed either 0 mg (C0; placebo; n= 20), 3 mg (C3; n = 20), or 6 mg (C6; n = 19) caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1) in capsules, with no other dietary caffeine intake. The following variables were unaffected (P > 0.05) by different caffeine doses on days 1, 3, 6, 9, and 11 and were within normal clinical ranges: body mass, urine osmolality, urine specific gravity, urine color, 24-h urine volume, 24-h Na+ and K+ excretion, 24-h creatinine, blood urea nitrogen, serum Na+ and K+, serum osmolality, hematocrit, and total plasma protein. Therefore, C0, C3, and C6 exhibited no evidence of hypohydration. These findings question the widely accepted notion that caffeine consumption acts chronically as a diuretic.



and whether caffeine is a diuretic or not, your still drinking large quantities of fluid with every cup, so its not as though you have to ignore all of this volume in your fluid intake.

[Erik]

Coffee makes you fat.

[Aaron_F]

but caffeine is awsome

Changes in caffeine intake and long-term weight change in men and women.Lopez-Garcia E, van Dam RM, Rajpathak S, Willett WC, Manson JE, Hu FB.
Department of Nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Cambridge, MA, USA.

BACKGROUND: The long-term effects of caffeine intake on weight have not been examined prospectively. OBJECTIVE: The objective was to assess the relation between caffeine intake and 12-y weight change. DESIGN: We conducted a prospective study of 18 417 men and 39 740 women, with no chronic diseases at baseline, who were followed from 1986 to 1998. Caffeine intake was assessed repeatedly every 2-4 y. Weight change was calculated as the difference between the self-reported weight in 1986 and in 1998. RESULTS: The participants reported a change in caffeine intake that varied across quintiles, from decreases of 296 and 342 mg/d to increases of 213 and 143 mg/d in men and women, respectively. Age-adjusted models showed a lower mean weight gain in participants who increased their caffeine consumption than in those who decreased their consumption, but the differences between extreme quintiles were small: -0.43 kg (95% CI: -0.17, -0.69) in men and -0.41 kg (95% CI: -0.20, -0.62) in women. After adjustment for potential confounders and baseline and change in total energy intake and other nutrients and foods, the differences remained similar for men and diminished slightly for women (men: -0.43 kg; 95% CI: -0.17, -0.68; women: -0.35; 95% CI: -0.14, -0.56). An increase in coffee and tea consumption was also associated with less weight gain. In men, the association between caffeine intake and weight was stronger in younger participants (P for interaction < 0.001); in women, the association was stronger in those who had a body mass index (in kg/m2) > or = 25, who were less physically active, or who were current smokers (P for interaction < 0.001). CONCLUSION: Increases in caffeine intake may lead to a small reduction in long-term weight gain.

[Leah]

Coffee is not a diuretic per se,

caffeine may be, but its effects are hugely over rated.

Fluid, electrolyte, and renal indices of hydration during 11 days of controlled caffeine consumption.Armstrong LE, Pumerantz AC, Roti MW, Judelson DA, Watson G, Dias JC, Sokmen B, Casa DJ, Maresh CM, Lieberman H, Kellogg M.
University of Connecticut, Human Performance Laboratory, Storrs, CT 06269, USA.

This investigation determined if 3 levels of controlled caffeine consumption affected fluid-electrolyte balance and renal function differently. Healthy males (mean +/- standard deviation; age, 21.6 +/- 3.3 y) consumed 3 mg caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1). on days 1 to 6 (equilibration phase). On days 7 to 11 (treatment phase), subjects consumed either 0 mg (C0; placebo; n= 20), 3 mg (C3; n = 20), or 6 mg (C6; n = 19) caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1) in capsules, with no other dietary caffeine intake. The following variables were unaffected (P > 0.05) by different caffeine doses on days 1, 3, 6, 9, and 11 and were within normal clinical ranges: body mass, urine osmolality, urine specific gravity, urine color, 24-h urine volume, 24-h Na+ and K+ excretion, 24-h creatinine, blood urea nitrogen, serum Na+ and K+, serum osmolality, hematocrit, and total plasma protein. Therefore, C0, C3, and C6 exhibited no evidence of hypohydration. These findings question the widely accepted notion that caffeine consumption acts chronically as a diuretic.



and whether caffeine is a diuretic or not, your still drinking large quantities of fluid with every cup, so its not as though you have to ignore all of this volume in your fluid intake.




but caffeine is awsome

Changes in caffeine intake and long-term weight change in men and women.Lopez-Garcia E, van Dam RM, Rajpathak S, Willett WC, Manson JE, Hu FB.
Department of Nutrition, Harvard School of Public Health, Cambridge, MA, USA.

BACKGROUND: The long-term effects of caffeine intake on weight have not been examined prospectively. OBJECTIVE: The objective was to assess the relation between caffeine intake and 12-y weight change. DESIGN: We conducted a prospective study of 18 417 men and 39 740 women, with no chronic diseases at baseline, who were followed from 1986 to 1998. Caffeine intake was assessed repeatedly every 2-4 y. Weight change was calculated as the difference between the self-reported weight in 1986 and in 1998. RESULTS: The participants reported a change in caffeine intake that varied across quintiles, from decreases of 296 and 342 mg/d to increases of 213 and 143 mg/d in men and women, respectively. Age-adjusted models showed a lower mean weight gain in participants who increased their caffeine consumption than in those who decreased their consumption, but the differences between extreme quintiles were small: -0.43 kg (95% CI: -0.17, -0.69) in men and -0.41 kg (95% CI: -0.20, -0.62) in women. After adjustment for potential confounders and baseline and change in total energy intake and other nutrients and foods, the differences remained similar for men and diminished slightly for women (men: -0.43 kg; 95% CI: -0.17, -0.68; women: -0.35; 95% CI: -0.14, -0.56). An increase in coffee and tea consumption was also associated with less weight gain. In men, the association between caffeine intake and weight was stronger in younger participants (P for interaction < 0.001); in women, the association was stronger in those who had a body mass index (in kg/m2) > or = 25, who were less physically active, or who were current smokers (P for interaction < 0.001). CONCLUSION: Increases in caffeine intake may lead to a small reduction in long-term weight gain.

Holy shit...a smart post by a smart person...there's hope yet...more rep for you :D

[Aaron_F]

Coffee is teh awsome

Coffee, diabetes, and weight control.Greenberg JA, Boozer CN, Geliebter A.
Department of Health and Nutrition Sciences, Brooklyn College, City University of New York, New York, NY 11210, USA.

Several prospective epidemiologic studies over the past 4 y concluded that ingestion of caffeinated and decaffeinated coffee can reduce the risk of diabetes. This finding is at odds with the results of trials in humans showing that glucose tolerance is reduced shortly after ingestion of caffeine or caffeinated coffee and suggesting that coffee consumption could increase the risk of diabetes. This review discusses epidemiologic and laboratory studies of the effects of coffee and its constituents, with a focus on diabetes risk. Weight loss may be an explanatory factor, because one prospective epidemiologic study found that consumption of coffee was followed by lower diabetes risk but only in participants who had lost weight. A second such study found that both caffeine and coffee intakes were modestly and inversely associated with weight gain. It is possible that caffeine and other constituents of coffee, such as chlorogenic acid and quinides, are involved in causing weight loss. Caffeine and caffeinated coffee have been shown to acutely increase blood pressure and thereby to pose a health threat to persons with cardiovascular disease risk. One short-term study found that ground decaffeinated coffee did not increase blood pressure. Decaffeinated coffee, therefore, may be the type of coffee that can safely help persons decrease diabetes risk. However, the ability of decaffeinated coffee to achieve these effects is based on a limited number of studies, and the underlying biological mechanisms have yet to be elucidated.

[jackieleigh]

Coffee makes you fat.

:blink:

[abercrombie3f]

how can coffee make you fat??? i've always heard that SOME coffee is great for your health

[Erik]

It's like eating cake, only it tastes like crap.

[jackieleigh]

It's like eating cake, only it tastes like crap.

To each his own :wink:

[abercrombie3f]

agree Jackie ;)

[Tearose]

I drink about 4 reg size cups a day with 3 small T. of splenda in each plus a gallon of water a day

[Pinky]

There is no way I could ever give up my coffee. I am a coffee snob, not just anyone's coffee with do, I am very particular. :P

Coffee is my appetite suppressant, my dessert, my reward, my wake up, I heart it so.... :love:

[Pinky]

As a matter of fact, I just finished and Extra Large Timmie's, and it is 11:15pm :D

[Aaron_F]

Coffee is liquid gold

[Leah]

As a matter of fact, I just finished and Extra Large Timmie's, and it is 11:15pm :D

:shock:

[velvet]

As a matter of fact, I just finished and Extra Large Timmie's, and it is 11:15pm :D
After that, i'd be wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide awake until 11:15 A.M!

[Patricia]

Off to grab me a hot cup right now (with SF vanilla syrup maybe? ) then head on over to the gym to do my HIIT.

[demi]

I drink 1-2 cups a day. 1 cup in the morning, always, and then another cup of coffee or green tea later on in the day.

Any more than that, and I get unpleasant side-effects-- shakiness, nausea, nervousness, etc.

.
:ditto:

[jackieleigh]

Off to grab me a hot cup right now (with SF vanilla syrup maybe? ) then head on over to the gym to do my HIIT.


I am having my 3rd and last cup of the day here. Cutting back from 6 to 3 hasnt really made a difference I dont feel, but I did need the 3rd cup today before Hills!! :lol3:

[Blondell]

I'm on cup #2 for today. I have about 3 to go :lol:

I'm drinking it w/ a bit of cinnamon :drool:

[jackieleigh]

I'm on cup #2 for today. I have about 3 to go :lol:

I'm drinking it w/ a bit of cinnamon :drool:


I actually add cinamon to the gounds before I brew it!

[Pinky]

I actually add cinamon to the gounds before I brew it!
I have done that too, it is pretty good!

[gymgurl]

I actually add cinamon to the gounds before I brew it!


Oooh, that's such a great idea, I'll be trying that one today! :p

[KatieB]

I actually add cinamon to the gounds before I brew it!

I do the same thing! Sometimes a tiny dash of nutmeg or cloves too lol.

I drink loads of coffee with Splenda and skim milk every morning, sometimes early afternoon. I can't have it late though or I will be up all night.

[calane1226]

How can anyone drink 3-6 cups of coffee and 2 gallons of water a day? I'd never leave the bathroom.

I'm a one cup of joe a day girl, any one 2-3 liters of water a day.

[Tony]

How can anyone drink 3-6 cups of coffee and 2 gallons of water a day? I'd never leave the bathroom.

I'm a one cup of joe a day girl, any one 2-3 liters of water a day.

I have a big bladder.

[Blondell]

I'm drinking coffee right now :sad:

[jackieleigh]

How can anyone drink 3-6 cups of coffee and 2 gallons of water a day? I'd never leave the bathroom.

I'm a one cup of joe a day girl, any one 2-3 liters of water a day.


I practically live in the bathroom! :lol:

[Espi]

Coffee is not a diuretic per se,

caffeine may be, but its effects are hugely over rated.

Fluid, electrolyte, and renal indices of hydration during 11 days of controlled caffeine consumption.Armstrong LE, Pumerantz AC, Roti MW, Judelson DA, Watson G, Dias JC, Sokmen B, Casa DJ, Maresh CM, Lieberman H, Kellogg M.
University of Connecticut, Human Performance Laboratory, Storrs, CT 06269, USA.

This investigation determined if 3 levels of controlled caffeine consumption affected fluid-electrolyte balance and renal function differently. Healthy males (mean +/- standard deviation; age, 21.6 +/- 3.3 y) consumed 3 mg caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1). on days 1 to 6 (equilibration phase). On days 7 to 11 (treatment phase), subjects consumed either 0 mg (C0; placebo; n= 20), 3 mg (C3; n = 20), or 6 mg (C6; n = 19) caffeine . kg(-1) . d(-1) in capsules, with no other dietary caffeine intake. The following variables were unaffected (P > 0.05) by different caffeine doses on days 1, 3, 6, 9, and 11 and were within normal clinical ranges: body mass, urine osmolality, urine specific gravity, urine color, 24-h urine volume, 24-h Na+ and K+ excretion, 24-h creatinine, blood urea nitrogen, serum Na+ and K+, serum osmolality, hematocrit, and total plasma protein. Therefore, C0, C3, and C6 exhibited no evidence of hypohydration. These findings question the widely accepted notion that caffeine consumption acts chronically as a diuretic.



and whether caffeine is a diuretic or not, your still drinking large quantities of fluid with every cup, so its not as though you have to ignore all of this volume in your fluid intake.


Drinking coffee puts more stress on the bladder, so people visit the rest room more often. This however does NOT change the actual urine volume, though it often feels like it does. Hence the mistaken assumption that caffein/cofee is a diuretic. It isn't!

[Blondell]

I'm about to try the cinnamon w/ the grounds this a.m.

[JJ29]

I actually add cinamon to the gounds before I brew it!

Someimes I add a bit of cardamon to the grounds and then after it is brewed, I add a bit of almond extract and stevia and you have some chai coffee! Actually, i do this for iced coffee.

[Blondell]

This is MUCH better than adding it directly to the coffee after it's brewed :nod:

YUMMY!

[lynn]

Anyone like Starbucks?...and I don't mean the fru fru drinks:lol3:

[Blondell]

i do. it's just cheaper to make your own :lol:

[jackieleigh]

This is MUCH better than adding it directly to the coffee after it's brewed :nod:

YUMMY!

:thumb: it is my FAVORITE!

[lynn]

I make my starbucks at home in my french press:morning: ..and it makes a difference doing it this way rather than a coffee machine...the taste is much bolder and intense

[Pinky]

I make my starbucks at home in my french press:morning: ..and it makes a difference doing it this way rather than a coffee machine...the taste is much bolder and intense
I had a french press years ago, before I got a coffee maker. I really liked it. Not I have the cuisinat coffee maker that grinds the beans right it in. I love it.

[yummy]

Anyone like Starbucks?...and I don't mean the fru fru drinks:lol3:
i hate starbucks coffee. i only get their chia tea bag

[demi]

I'm drinking it w/ a bit of cinnamon :drool:

i should try that one too :thumb:

[lchristine100]

I love having coffee in the AM when I wake up, but other than that I personally find it hard to keep drinking water all day if I keep drinking my coffee- so much liquid running through me! I do love starbucks once in a while with sugar free hazelnut..mmm

[LUVPINK222]

Someimes I add a bit of cardamon to the grounds and then after it is brewed, I add a bit of almond extract and stevia and you have some chai coffee! Actually, i do this for iced coffee.
I add cardamon too sometimes......SO good!:coffee:

[jackieleigh]

What is cardamon? I meanI have seen it before, but what does it taste like?

[amyloo]

Hubby adds the cinnamon to the grounds for me sometimes. Be careful that you don't use too much because for some reason it makes it harder for the water to get through the filter and the whole thing overflows. Or maybe that's just operator error.... :ninja:

[Jypsie]

I am a coffee addict as well, but I am cutting back on my caffeine, so I'm making half-caff now. I use Starbucks coffee and it's pretty good. I throw in some SF DaVinci too. I was spoiled when I was in Canada though and I wish we had Timmie's here. I particularly miss the chocolate Timbits :drool:

[Pinky]

I am a coffee addict as well, but I am cutting back on my caffeine, so I'm making half-caff now. I use Starbucks coffee and it's pretty good. I throw in some SF DaVinci too. I was spoiled when I was in Canada though and I wish we had Timmie's here. I particularly miss the chocolate Timbits :drool:


TIMMIE'S !!RAWKS!

[calane1226]

I am a coffee addict as well, but I am cutting back on my caffeine, so I'm making half-caff now. I use Starbucks coffee and it's pretty good. I throw in some SF DaVinci too. I was spoiled when I was in Canada though and I wish we had Timmie's here. I particularly miss the chocolate Timbits :drool:

I'm sad for you. Where do you live? Timmies has penetrated all of Michigan and northern ohio...maybe it will reach you soon.

[jackieleigh]

Mmmm...Tim Hortons :drool:

[Blondell]

This is from another thread that carebearstitch posted. It's acoupon for free coffee on black friday from Borders. :)

http://f.chtah.com/i/9/276579820/couponsbc1124.htm

[jaleena]

Thanks blondell :)
Since I'm drinking their holiday blend right now...

[jackieleigh]

thanks for the coupon!! I might have to stop there just for some coffee!

[Jypsie]

I'm sad for you. Where do you live? Timmies has penetrated all of Michigan and northern ohio...maybe it will reach you soon.


It hasn't made it to Wisconsin yet, but I am hopeful :)

[Brandy]

So, what is so great about the Timmy's coffee? I'm being serious.:oops:

[Blondell]

It hasn't made it to Wisconsin yet, but I am hopeful :)
We have them in Mich. so maybe you guys will soon :shrug: