View Full Version : military press VS upright rows...
Ruthie
11-29-2006, 11:11 PM
it it the same results or still do both ?
DarkAnimal73
11-29-2006, 11:34 PM
1. No
2. Nodamn beat me..:thumb:
jaleena
11-30-2006, 12:06 AM
Do high pulls instead...less bad on the joints, and more fun. But still not the same results as pressing, not at all...
Ruthie
11-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Hey Jaleena what is a high pull-if I do that do I ditch the other two ?
Hey Jaleena what is a high pull-if I do that do I ditch the other two ?
Upright Row (http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=77)
Military Press (http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=29)
High Pull (http://www.bsu.edu/webapps2/strengthlab/exdetails.asp?exid=16)
Note the muscles worked w/ each exercise.
Jeff Rage
11-30-2006, 12:18 PM
From Shoulder Savers, Part II (http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=06-075-training)
... if there is one exercise that will ever push me over the line, it's going to be the upright row. This is as internally rotated as the humerus will get, and you're elevating the humerus right into the impingement zone on every rep.
For that reason, I'll never write this into a program for a client or athlete. The dumbbell version is a slightly safer alternative, although I feel that there are still much safer ways to challenge the upper traps and deltoids.
If you do High Pulls, use a Snatch (slightly wider than shoulder width) grip and only bring the bar up as hgih as it is comfrtable, which will be at the lower chest level, or possibly right below the chest. If you have any shoudler issues, this would not be a good lift.
Iron Will
11-30-2006, 02:21 PM
Do high pulls instead...less bad on the joints, and more fun. But still not the same results as pressing, not at all...
How is a high pull easier on the joints than an upright row?
char-dawg
11-30-2006, 02:26 PM
How is a high pull easier on the joints than an upright row?
You don't get as high, basically. See Jeff's quote from EC.
Jeff Rage
11-30-2006, 02:33 PM
You don't get as high, basically. See Jeff's quote from EC.
The bottom part of my post was my writing.
If you did an Upright Row with s Snatch grip and only brought it to just below chest level, it would certainly be less stressful.
Iron Will
11-30-2006, 02:55 PM
The bottom part of my post was my writing.
If you did an Upright Row with s Snatch grip and only brought it to just below chest level, it would certainly be less stressful.
oh ok, thats basically what i do, but not as wide as a snatch grip but not as narrow as a upright row... too narrow and it hurts the shoulders.
Thanks for the links Leah I see now that I've been going to high on my upright rows basically moving my elbows higher than needed and shrugging my shoulders.
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