What body fat % do you maintain girls?

[JulieT]

I have endometriosis, and I'm working to reduce my body fat to about 15%. I do no supplements other than protein shakes, and I work out just for health. For those of you who remain this low (or lower), are you able to sustain it year round? Do you have to always eat clean to maintain it?

Last week, I was up around 155 lbs and hurting like crazy. I started eating clean on Thursday, and I'm down to 149 / 20% fat. If I can reduce my % fat, in theory my estrogen levels will drop and put me into remission. But if I can't maintain it with the occasional slice of pizza or cookie, it probably isn't a feasible long term goal for me. Sure, I can eat clean for as long as it takes to get the fat off, but I'm scared of having to eat that way forever to maintain it. I guess the question is, how "off" can you go from your totally clean diet? At some point, will my body adjust and just "stick" there if I have a craving for Long John Silver's chicken planks? (Eeeew - greasy and crunchy. Now I'm hungry.)

Julie

[absolut_blonde]

15% is a pretty low number to maintain in the long run, no? Seems like it might be a little low, but I have never been that lean, so I don't really know for sure.

I think I'm around 18% or so? Just a conservative estimate. I don't know for sure. I only have my Tanita scale to go on, which I know isn't remotely accurate.

[Blondell]

why is this in training?

[Patricia]

I'm really not sure where I am at..ever.
At 149 and 20% fat you must have a lot of muscle. If not, 20% seems a little low for 149lbs IMO.

If you get to 15% an 'occasional' slice of pizza or Long John Silver's is not going to hurt you.
I eat 'clean' most of the time, though.

[smuggie]

I have endometriosis, and I'm working to reduce my body fat to about 15%. I do no supplements other than protein shakes, and I work out just for health. For those of you who remain this low (or lower), are you able to sustain it year round? Do you have to always eat clean to maintain it?

Last week, I was up around 155 lbs and hurting like crazy. I started eating clean on Thursday, and I'm down to 149 / 20% fat. If I can reduce my % fat, in theory my estrogen levels will drop and put me into remission. But if I can't maintain it with the occasional slice of pizza or cookie, it probably isn't a feasible long term goal for me. Sure, I can eat clean for as long as it takes to get the fat off, but I'm scared of having to eat that way forever to maintain it. I guess the question is, how "off" can you go from your totally clean diet? At some point, will my body adjust and just "stick" there if I have a craving for Long John Silver's chicken planks? (Eeeew - greasy and crunchy. Now I'm hungry.)

Julie
Ummm, did you read this over before you posted it?

[Patricia]

Ummm, did you read this over before you posted it?
I really just skimmed it. I see now what you mean though.

Julie, if you aren't willing to eat healthy in the long term you are just going to gain all your weight back-only a matter of time.

[Fet]

:popcorn:

*Fet waits patiently for the posting of Built's pic*

[Erik]

:popcorn:

*Fet waits patiently for the posting of Built's pic*

Why?

[Fet]

Cuz I get hot and bothered every time I see that 14% pic. Carry on. I'll wait.:popcorn:

[Sportsgirl]

Cuz I get hot and bothered every time I see that 14% pic. Carry on. I'll wait.:popcorn:

We never did get to see the rest of that body.

[Fet]

We never did get to see the rest of that body.
omg...she's adorable. :drool:

[Cass]

omg...she's adorable. :drool:
:yeahthat:

[Inatic]

Built is awesome!

[Sportsgirl]

I have endometriosis, and I'm working to reduce my body fat to about 15%. I do no supplements other than protein shakes, and I work out just for health. For those of you who remain this low (or lower), are you able to sustain it year round? Do you have to always eat clean to maintain it?

Last week, I was up around 155 lbs and hurting like crazy. I started eating clean on Thursday, and I'm down to 149 / 20% fat. If I can reduce my % fat, in theory my estrogen levels will drop and put me into remission. But if I can't maintain it with the occasional slice of pizza or cookie, it probably isn't a feasible long term goal for me. Sure, I can eat clean for as long as it takes to get the fat off, but I'm scared of having to eat that way forever to maintain it. I guess the question is, how "off" can you go from your totally clean diet? At some point, will my body adjust and just "stick" there if I have a craving for Long John Silver's chicken planks? (Eeeew - greasy and crunchy. Now I'm hungry.)



I really think it's individual and depends where your set point is. Some people have to work really hard to get to a lower body fat % and have to work hard to stay there, whereas some people naturally have a lower body fat % and can afford a few dietary slip ups here and there.

You don't have to have a 100% clean diet to lose fat.

The only thing I can recommend is to try it.

[jaleena]

I'm really not sure where I am at..ever.
At 149 and 20% fat you must have a lot of muscle. If not, 20% seems a little low for 149lbs IMO.

She didn't say how tall she is...that's definitely a factor.

[smuggie]

We never did get to see the rest of that body.
Here ya go:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/montagnu/builtlegs.jpg

[Fet]

*thank you Goddess Smuggie* :love:

[smuggie]

*thank you Goddess Smuggie* :love:
Bow down to me.

[Fet]

Bow down to me.
:bowdown:

[smuggie]

:bowdown:
That's better.

[Fet]

Anything for you, luv :kiss:

[Blondell]

right click; save

[Ana]

right click; save

:yeahthat:

I want to see her face :ban:

[Ali]

I don't know about specific body fat percentages, but I think it's doable to say fairly lean year round....it just depends what your goals are. If your sole goal is just to stay reasonably lean and have some treats...sure. Just have the treats as your cheat. You can't eat that way every day, though.

Now, when you start throwing out %'s...forget it...I don't want to get into that argument.

[Erik]

Now, when you start throwing out %'s...forget it...I don't want to get into that argument.

Oh but it's so fun.

[Sportsgirl]

Here ya go:



I've seen that pic many many times. My comment was more directed at.... what does the rest of her body look like i.e her lower body.

People seem to be taking this picture as a benchmark of what their abs need to look like at 14% I know I, for one... would NEVER look like that in the abdominal area at 14% simply because my fat distribution is not like the "typical" woman.

Not to take any glory away from this chick's hard work.... just sayin'

What we really need is a range of pictures of different women at 14% instead of people posting up that picture all the time. It really is misleading.

[Fet]

:yeahthat:

I want to see her face :ban:Enjoy!! (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1073474&postcount=1)

[smuggie]

Oh but it's so fun.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/montagnu/ellis/laughing.gif

[smuggie]

Enjoy!! (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1073474&postcount=1)
:stalker3:

[Erik]

I've seen that pic many many times. My comment was more directed at.... what does the rest of her body look like i.e her lower body.

People seem to be taking this picture as a benchmark of what their abs need to look like at 14% I know I, for one... would NEVER look like that in the abdominal area at 14% simply because my fat distribution is not like the "typical" woman.

Not to take any glory away from this chick's hard work.... just sayin'

What we really need is a range of pictures of different women at 14% instead of people posting up that picture all the time. It really is misleading.

It would represent an average of her entire body is my understanding of that figure. So she might have an 8% upper body and say a 22% lower body for example. I think that's how it was explained to me. I used to think the 14% figure represented everything.

Regional fat distribution and the like.

I think the point in the picture being frequently used, is that people often are not as lean as they think they are - men and women. I've seen some preposterous claims.

[Cass]

Enjoy!! (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1073474&postcount=1)

She is awesome! Well, you know for an old lady.

[Leah]

It would represent an average of her entire body is my understanding of that figure. So she might have an 8% upper body and say a 22% lower body for example.


Right...and to give an accurate picture of the AVERAGE the whole picture should be displayed :shrug: How is it accurate to say she's tested at 14% and only show the 8% upper body portion.


btw....love BF threads :popcorn: hehe

[smuggie]

I've seen that pic many many times. My comment was more directed at.... what does the rest of her body look like i.e her lower body.

People seem to be taking this picture as a benchmark of what their abs need to look like at 14% I know I, for one... would NEVER look like that in the abdominal area at 14% simply because my fat distribution is not like the "typical" woman.

Not to take any glory away from this chick's hard work.... just sayin'

What we really need is a range of pictures of different women at 14% instead of people posting up that picture all the time. It really is misleading.
Actually, this pic is not the one people post most of the time. That one doesn't show her legs at all.

But I agree with what you have to say about not every woman having abs that cut at 14%. I don't think mine would be, because I'm not like the typical woman either. However, my legs are lean enough to show the beginnings of vascularity. And my upper body shows vascularity as well.

[Ali]

Oh but it's so fun.

I suppose. :shrug:

[Erik]

I suppose. :shrug:

I have a history of pouncing all over bodyfat threads. :lol3:

[smuggie]

I have a history of pouncing all over bodyfat threads. :lol3:
Dream killer. :lol3:

[Erik]

Dream killer. :lol3:

Reality checker ...

[ritzgal]

Enjoy!! (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1073474&postcount=1)

I think she's so adorable...Thanks for reminding me of this journal!

[Ali]

Right...and to give an accurate picture of the AVERAGE the whole picture should be displayed :shrug: How is it accurate to say she's tested at 14% and only show the 8% upper body portion.


btw....love BF threads :popcorn: hehe

Right. Built's picture can be misleading when only the top half is shown and then calling it 14%. And for those that don't know...her picture and stats are used because of 1. The fantabulous abs and upper bod and 2. She had a DEXA at that point to substantiate the bodyfat percentage. DEXA is a scan that they use for testing bone density most of the time, but can also be used to fairly accurately measure body composition (muscle, fat, bone, etc.)

[Erik]

Right. Built's picture can be misleading when only the top half is shown and then calling it 14%. And for those that don't know...her picture and stats are used because of 1. The fantabulous abs and upper bod and 2. She had a DEXA at that point to substantiate the bodyfat percentage. DEXA is a scan that they use for testing bone density most of the time, but can also be used to fairly accurately measure body composition (muscle, fat, bone, etc.)

We should get you DEXA'd for the May show. That'd be very, very interesting. But also in the grand scheme of things ... it doesn't really matter. Ripped is ripped.

[Leah]

I'll be getting DEXA'd this yr. I kick myself for not doing it last yr :dry:

[Fet]

I have a history of pouncing all over bodyfat threads. :lol3:Yup, I was waiting for that too. :popcorn:

[Erik]

Yup, I was waiting for that too. :popcorn:

I haven't even read the original post yet. :lol3:

[Ali]

We should get you DEXA'd for the May show. That'd be very, very interesting. But also in the grand scheme of things ... it doesn't really matter. Ripped is ripped.

I tried once. Not before my show, but a little before. My doctor's office said it didn't measure body comp...just bone. :scratch: I watched her do everything, too. Maybe a different type of machine there or something. I could try to find a place that does it, though. Cindy had hers done.

[Fet]

I haven't even read the original post yet. :lol3:You didn't need to.

Erik + bf% in thread title = Pavlovian Reponse. Ding! Ding!!

[Ali]

You didn't need to.

Erik + bf% in thread title = Pavlovian Reponse. Ding! Ding!!

:lol:

[Jen]

:popcorn:

[smuggie]

You didn't need to.

Erik + bf% in thread title = Pavlovian Reponse. Ding! Ding!!
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t287/T287880A.jpg

[Sportsgirl]

For a bodyfat % thread, there sure is a lot of popcorn eating going on!

[smuggie]

For a bodyfat % thread, there sure is a lot of popcorn eating going on!
We need some pop to wash it down.

http://candyaddict.com/pictures/d/81-2/chubby_cotton_candy_cream_soda.jpg

[Inatic]

For a bodyfat % thread, there sure is a lot of popcorn eating going on!

:lol:

[funnyesq]

Eat clean and possibly organic. There are a lot of "estrogenic" substances in the chemicals used to preserve food and vegetables. Especially meat. Hormone free has helped me. Believe it or not some soaps, detergents and perfumes also have "estrogenic" properties.

I also would like to know the height of the OP because her weight does seem high for a BF of 20%

[radgirl]

Ok, Built looks amazing. But what I'm more floored by is that she eats a little over 2000 calories! And her training doesn't look insanely different from anyone else here. Maybe I misread, but damn, that's amazing if all of that is correct.

Edit: the 2000 is maintenance, but I'm still amazed. How many calories would she need to drop in order to start cutting?

[Ecala]

She sometimes eat wayyyyy more than 2000 too. She likes cake :)

[Leah]

I don't really think 2000 for maintenance is all that amazing :shrug:

[strongchick]

Ditto.

I seem to be maintaining on 1900. grumble.

[Jen]

I don't really think 2000 for maintenance is all that amazing :shrug:

nope :shrug: I maintain higher than that and dont think its amazing.

[radgirl]

Ok, so here is my r-tard question for the day. How do you know if your maintenance is higher than the calculate 14-16 x bw? Do you keep increasing 100 calories every week until the scale budges upward? I ask because I'm still learning about going to maintenance (slowly moving there) and trying to make sense of it all.

I guess I'm amazed at how great she looks. She eats, doesn't kill herself in the gym (maybe I'm wrong), and looks awesome. Ah, inspiration, like so may fellow EP'ers! :clap: :D

[strongchick]

Yup. As its been said, that is just a guide. Personally, I've been trying to gain, and I just have to keep pushing the cals up....

[Leah]

Ok, so here is my r-tard question for the day. How do you know if your maintenance is higher than the calculate 14-16 x bw? Do you keep increasing 100 calories every week until the scale budges upward? I ask because I'm still learning about going to maintenance (slowly moving there) and trying to make sense of it all.

I guess I'm amazed at how great she looks. She eats, doesn't kill herself in the gym (maybe I'm wrong), and looks awesome. Ah, inspiration, like so may fellow EP'ers! :clap: :D


I like to think that most veteran EP'ers know more or less how to eat and train efficiently :cool: There's enough good information here to get anyone started in the right direction.

[Ana]

Enjoy!! (http://www.wannabebigforums.com/showpost.php?p=1073474&postcount=1)
Thanks :love:

[Jen]

I like to think that most veteran EP'ers know more or less how to eat and train efficiently :cool: There's enough good information here to get anyone started in the right direction.
:yeahthat:


Ok, so here is my r-tard question for the day. How do you know if your maintenance is higher than the calculate 14-16 x bw? Do you keep increasing 100 calories every week until the scale budges upward? I ask because I'm still learning about going to maintenance (slowly moving there) and trying to make sense of it all.
yes- smart way to do it.

[smuggie]

nope :shrug: I maintain higher than that and dont think its amazing.
I maintain on higher than that too.

[Ecala]

Ok, Built looks amazing. But what I'm more floored by is that she eats a little over 2000 calories! And her training doesn't look insanely different from anyone else here. Maybe I misread, but damn, that's amazing if all of that is correct.

Edit: the 2000 is maintenance, but I'm still amazed. How many calories would she need to drop in order to start cutting?


Radgirl.. keep in mind that those were Built's cutting cals (2000).. her maintenance cals are 2300.

[radgirl]

Radgirl.. keep in mind that those were Built's cutting cals (2000).. her maintenance cals are 2300.
E, now I'm even more floored. Cutting on 2000?! Wow. All that food and looking good.

Yes, my fellow EP'ers are sexy, awesome, beautiful, strong, and an inspiration. :love:

[smuggie]

E, now I'm even more floored. Cutting on 2000?! Wow. All that food and looking good.

Yes, my fellow EP'ers are sexy, awesome, beautiful, strong, and an inspiration. :love:
2000 is a deficit for me too.

Why are you so surprised someone can cut on 2000 cals? The whole process is entirely individual. Any formulas are to be used as starting points only. Same goes for maintenance and bulking.

[Blondell]

I id her 'baby got back' and was pleased w. it :nod:

[radgirl]

2000 is a deficit for me too.

Why are you so surprised someone can cut on 2000 cals? The whole process is entirely individual. Any formulas are to be used as starting points only. Same goes for maintenance and bulking.
Just amazed, nothing wrong with that.

[smuggie]

Just amazed, nothing wrong with that.
No, there's nothing wrong with it at all.

[Ali]

E, now I'm even more floored. Cutting on 2000?! Wow. All that food and looking good.


Remember it depends how tall and how much lean body mass you have, too...as to how many calories you can afford. So, if you are much smaller, your maintenance/cutting calories will be lower.

[Blondell]

Remember it depends how tall and how much lean body mass you have, too...as to how many calories you can afford. So, if you are much smaller, your maintenance/cutting calories will be lower.
I believe it was also a slow cut.

[Ecala]

Remember it depends how tall and how much lean body mass you have, too...as to how many calories you can afford. So, if you are much smaller, your maintenance/cutting calories will be lower.


As well as your level of activity.

[Ali]

As well as your level of activity.

Well ya, but she never does that much cardio so if she were...the cals could be higher...or the cut faster.

I was going to say that, too, B, but I don't remember at the moment what her loss rate was. Less than a pound per week? Anyone want to look that up? And is she here...she could just come out and explain it all. :lol3:

[Erik]

Well ya, but she never does that much cardio so if she were...the cals could be higher...or the cut faster.

I was going to say that, too, B, but I don't remember at the moment what her loss rate was. Less than a pound per week? Anyone want to look that up? And is she here...she could just come out and explain it all. :lol3:

She is ...

[Ecala]

Well, she still expends energy lifting.

[Erik]

And at the same time, eat more and lose slower is always an option as well. Could be a better approach for muscle maintenance if you're patient enough.

However, perhaps the strategy still needs some tweaking to get the lower body to respond. Ie, lower calories, more cardio, etc.

[Ali]

Well, she still expends energy lifting.

Yes, and?

[Ecala]

That is all. Stinker!


You said she doesn't do much cardio-- but she still lifts and that requires energy.

But I wasn't really referring to Built anyway.. just in general. Level of activity gets factored in when determining maintenance cals. Right??

:bawling:

[radgirl]

:popcorn:

[radgirl]

That is all. Stinker!


You said she doesn't do much cardio-- but she still lifts and that requires energy.

But I wasn't really referring to Built anyway.. just in general. Level of activity gets factored in when determining maintenance cals. Right??

:bawling:
:console:

[Ana]

She is ...

Where?

[Ecala]

OH Built... chime in, would ya? :lol: Yoooo hoooooo. Don't make me start yodeling, please. Cause I will.

[Ali]

That is all. Stinker!


You said she doesn't do much cardio-- but she still lifts and that requires energy.

But I wasn't really referring to Built anyway.. just in general. Level of activity gets factored in when determining maintenance cals. Right??

:bawling:


Yes. I thought you were referring to Built. I'm just saying that more cardio/more dieting would help the process along. But I know...she doesn't like that approach.

[smuggie]

Where?
At EP.

[Inatic]

OH Built... chime in, would ya? :lol: Yoooo hoooooo. Don't make me start yodeling, please. Cause I will.


Me tooo

Ohhh yodel le he hoooooooo :D

Ok i dont get a yodeling award. :oops:

[Ecala]

Nope, in general.

OH, and Built does do cardio when she's cutting as much as she doesn't want to... she just doesn't go to extremes. She walks a lot too.. and bikes.. so she is getting something in.

But then, I meant in general. :) Tears done dried up now.

[radgirl]

Yes. I thought you were referring to Built. I'm just saying that more cardio/more dieting would help the process along. But I know...she doesn't like that approach.
From what I read, her approach is very conservative. Half pound per week. Even looking at her photos, March 2004 to November 2005, long time, but big difference.

[Erik]

Nope, in general.

OH, and Built does do cardio when she's cutting as much as she doesn't want to... she just doesn't go to extremes. She walks a lot too.. and bikes.. so she is getting something in.

But the approach needs tweaking to get the lower body to respond. The upper body has definitely responded to the approach; lower body, far more stubborn.

[Ali]

Nope, in general.

OH, and Built does do cardio when she's cutting as much as she doesn't want to... she just doesn't go to extremes. She walks a lot too.. and bikes.. so she is getting something in.

But then, I meant in general. :) Tears done dried up now.

Ya, I get it, now.

From what I understand, Built's approach is all about getting as lean as she can with the least amount of uncomfortableness (from dieting and cardio) as possible.

The thing is, by her own admission, she hasn't gotten her lower body as lean as she'd like to.

How did this turn into a conversation about Built?

[Ecala]

It started w/ Fet's :popcorn:

[Ali]

From what I read, her approach is very conservative. Half pound per week. Even looking at her photos, March 2004 to November 2005, long time, but big difference.

I'm very framiliar with her story. :wink:

[radgirl]

I blame Fet too. :D J/K! I think it's my fault. :oops:

[radgirl]

I'm very framiliar with her story. :wink:
Very cool. :) It's all very interesting to me as I continue to learn.

[Ecala]

Yah, has the OP even been back to comment? Troublemaker!

[radgirl]

I love to make trouble. :lol3:

[Erik]

I still haven't read the original post.

[Ali]

Yah, has the OP even been back to comment? Troublemaker!

Ah...we all love it.

[radgirl]

:bunny:

[Built]

Greetings.

:)

[Ana]

At EP.

I got that but what's her handle and where is she? :(
Is she built here too?

[Blondell]

there she is! :woohoo:

[radgirl]

Hello!

[Ecala]

Greetings.

:)


Were your ears :jeff:

[Ana]

Greetings.

:)

:hi:

My question has been answered. :clap:

[Built]

;)

[Ali]

I still haven't read the original post.


I have endometriosis, and I'm working to reduce my body fat to about 15%. I do no supplements other than protein shakes, and I work out just for health. For those of you who remain this low (or lower), are you able to sustain it year round? Do you have to always eat clean to maintain it?

Last week, I was up around 155 lbs and hurting like crazy. I started eating clean on Thursday, and I'm down to 149 / 20% fat. If I can reduce my % fat, in theory my estrogen levels will drop and put me into remission. But if I can't maintain it with the occasional slice of pizza or cookie, it probably isn't a feasible long term goal for me. Sure, I can eat clean for as long as it takes to get the fat off, but I'm scared of having to eat that way forever to maintain it. I guess the question is, how "off" can you go from your totally clean diet? At some point, will my body adjust and just "stick" there if I have a craving for Long John Silver's chicken planks? (Eeeew - greasy and crunchy. Now I'm hungry.)

there

[radgirl]

Damn, now who got us off track?

[Erik]

there

Still not reading it.

[Ali]

;)

Hey! :)

[Ali]

Still not reading it.

:pimpslap:

[MichelleS]

:popcorn:

[Inatic]

More popcorn, everyone must be refeeding :lol:

Hi Built! :D

[Ana]

More popcorn, everyone must be refeeding :lol:

Hi Built! :D

Hey :ban:

Not I :girly:

[MichelleS]

this trainer in my gym told me one of his girls is 9% right now. :lol: Yeah right

[Built]

I am eating cookies.

:)

[MichelleS]

I am eating cookies.

:)
me too. :lol3:

[Cass]

I am eating cookies.

:)
They go good with beer.

[Ecala]

I am eating cookies.

:)

Ut oh.. your 14% has just gone up to 15% :wink:

[Ana]

They go good with beer.

really? I like lupini beans with beer :drool:

[radgirl]

No food talk, I'm hungry.

[Erik]

I had cookies with my lunch time chicken - and cherry pie and reese's peanut butter cups too.

[Cass]

really? I like lupini beans with beer :drool:
Cheesecake and beer are my favorite.

[radgirl]

I had cookies with my lunch time chicken - and cherry pie and reese's peanut butter cups too.
Is that "on" plan?

[Ecala]

Cheesecake and beer are my favorite.


Really.

[MichelleS]

beer sucks drink tequila or vodka way better for you.

[Ana]

Cheesecake and beer are my favorite.
Have you ever tried lupini beans and beer?
Perfection on hot summer day outdoors life just doesn't get any better than that.

[radgirl]

beer sucks drink tequila or vodka way better for you.
:thumb:

beer sucks hiney

[Built]

I'm probably about 20% at the moment.

<munches biscotti>

[Inatic]

:drool:
*stares longing at Noel and Cindy's basket of goodies*

[Ana]

I had cookies with my lunch time chicken - and cherry pie and reese's peanut butter cups too.

Protein, carbs and fat :thumb:

Can you put these on my next plan?

[Ecala]

Ana.. that is very Portuguese, isn't it? Or Mediterranean, rather. My Italian FIL eats lupinis w/ beer.

[Cass]

Really.
Yup. Beer all night. Cheesecake at midnight.

[Erik]

Is that "on" plan?

I made an executive decision. I'm doing cardio today so I needed the energy. :lol3:

[Ana]

Ana.. that is very Portuguese, isn't it? Or Mediterranean, rather. My Italian FIL eats lupinis w/ beer.

Yup alot of the cafe's in europe serve them. They are great!
Well better than the option which is winkles :sick:

[radgirl]

I made an executive decision. I'm doing cardio today so I needed the energy. :lol3:
:funny: :funny:

[MichelleS]

cardio sucks




that is all

[Ali]

Beer goes well with....beer.

But I've been craving Kalua and cream. Better tet that in before next week.

[Erik]

Beer goes well with....beer.

But I've been craving Kalua and cream. Better tet that in before next week.
Yes, you better.

Ripped is calling your name.

[Ali]

Ok, now are bodyfat discussion is shot to hell. :sad:

[radgirl]

Beer goes well with....beer.

But I've been craving Kalua and cream. Better tet that in before next week.
Those are so good. OMG. Wait, that is definitely NOT part of the plan.

[Cass]

Yup alot of the cafe's in europe serve them. They are great!
Well better than the option which is winkles :sick:
Never had them.

[Erik]

I don't mind returning to bodyfat discussions.

Come on, someone say they're 9%.

[Inatic]

cardio sucks


that is all

I like cardio :oops:

[Ali]

Yes, you better.

Ripped is calling your name.


I hear it...it's just a whisper right now. :wink:

[Inatic]

I don't mind returning to bodyfat discussions.

Come on, someone say they're 9%.

Ok......

Im 9%

*hides*

[Built]

I think my hands are at 9%.

Maybe my forearms, too. And my feet.

[Erik]

Ok......

Im 9%

*hides*

Cool. Great work. It's all you. :p

You have teh ript biceps with those garden hose veins in them though.

[radgirl]

:funny: :funny:

[Ecala]

Yup alot of the cafe's in europe serve them. They are great!
Well better than the option which is winkles :sick:


What are


winkles

Dare. I ask.

[Ali]

I don't mind returning to bodyfat discussions.

Come on, someone say they're 9%.

:overhere: My calipers read about that before show...probably lower.

Hey, wait...I don't want you to :bitch: me.

I know better, but go ahead...run with it.

[MichelleS]

Ok, now are bodyfat discussion is shot to hell. :sad:
no its not

this trainer in my gym told me one of his girls is 9% right now. :lol: Yeah right

[Ecala]

I don't mind returning to bodyfat discussions.

Come on, someone say they're 9%.


My toes are at least 9%.

[Ana]

Ok, now are bodyfat discussion is shot to hell. :sad:
This will make everyone talk. I believe since working with Erik my extreme physique is down to about 17% bf.

Anyone? :funny:

[Erik]

:overhere: My calipers read about that before show...probably lower.

Hey, wait...I don't want you to :bitch: me.

I know better, but go ahead...run with it.

I'd be very, very interested to see where you test out this year, because your lower body got very lean as well. And your upper body was plain shredded.

[Inatic]

This will make everyone talk. I believe since working with Erik my extreme physique is down to about 17% bf.

Anyone? :funny:

:woohoo:

[Ana]

My chest is about 6% I know that cuz I can see the bones.
Don't try and tell me it's not Thunder cuz you know you'd be wrong on that one. :p

:lol3:

[fitmommy]

a trainer in my gym told me she competes at 3%:uhuh: telling me this as she's lookin' all fat:lol3:

There is a woman over at the O2 board says she maintains 10%( or some freaky #). I mean she looks great and all, she competes and places....but. Then she preceeded to direct us to her websight to see how it's done:shades:


Why is it so hard to know your bodyfat, or guess correctly. The whole thing is funny.

Love body fat threads!

[Ecala]

I'd be very, very interested to see where you test out this year, because your lower body got very lean as well. And your upper body was plain shredded.

She was at least 6" thick when she turned sideways, remember? If that. 5" maybe.

[Blondell]

a trainer in my gym told me she competes at 3%:uhuh: telling me this as she's lookin' all fat:lol3:

There is a woman over at the O2 board says she maintains 10%( or some freaky #). I mean she looks great and all, she competes and places....but. Then she preceeded to direct us to her websight to see how it's done:shades:


Why is it so hard to know your bodyfat, or guess correctly. The whole thing is funny.

Love body fat threads!Year round? :uhuh:
Did she tell you her secret to being able to post and compete while dead? :unsure: :lol:

[Ecala]

a trainer in my gym told me she competes at 3%:uhuh: telling me this as she's lookin' all fat:lol3:

There is a woman over at the O2 board says she maintains 10%( or some freaky #). I mean she looks great and all, she competes and places....but. Then she preceeded to direct us to her websight to see how it's done:shades:


Why is it so hard to know your bodyfat, or guess correctly. The whole thing is funny.

Love body fat threads!

B*ff*M*ther I bet.

[Erik]

a trainer in my gym told me she competes at 3%:uhuh: telling me this as she's lookin' all fat:lol3:

Oh man, I'd love a chance at that one. Darnit.



There is a woman over at the O2 board says she maintains 10%( or some freaky #). I mean she looks great and all, she competes and places....but. Then she preceeded to direct us to her websight to see how it's done:shades:


Why is it so hard to know your bodyfat, or guess correctly. The whole thing is funny.

Love body fat threads!

More importantly. Why does it even matter? Who cares? 10%, 12%? Whatever. The mirror tells you if you're fat or not.

[Ana]

She was at least 6" thick when she turned sideways, remember? If that. 5" maybe.

stop talking about me already :funny: :funny: :funny:

[Ali]

a trainer in my gym told me she competes at 3%:uhuh: telling me this as she's lookin' all fat:lol3:

There is a woman over at the O2 board says she maintains 10%( or some freaky #). I mean she looks great and all, she competes and places....but. Then she preceeded to direct us to her websight to see how it's done:shades:


Why is it so hard to know your bodyfat, or guess correctly. The whole thing is funny.

Love body fat threads!

It doesn't matter what your body fat % REALLY is...well, it is a curious thing, though....but my point is that you can use your tools (calipers, scales, whatever) to judge if you are making progress. The actualy number you come up with may be :bs: but as long as it's moving in the right direction on a cut...that's what matters.

[Ali]

3% :funny: I think that's impossible.

[Ecala]

stop talking about me already :funny: :funny: :funny:


:lol:

goober.

You're 5" shoe size.

[MichelleS]

didn't you know mirrors lie you must trust the calipers

[radgirl]

Oh man, I'd love a chance at that one. Darnit.



More importantly. Why does it even matter? Who cares? 10%, 12%? Whatever. The mirror tells you if you're fat or not.
No more mirrors for me. I think they are lying. :lol3:

[Built]

The only reason I got DEXAd was to know what my bodyfat distribution was, and to know once and for all how much LBM a trained, unassisted middle-aged woman could gain on a bulk.

Having established both, I'd have to agree with Erik - you either look good naked, or you don't.

[Ali]

B*ff*M*ther I bet.

Naw, she wouldn't do that. She does stay pretty lean year round, though...w/o making muslce gains, though...and she works her ass off. OT continually.

[Erik]

It doesn't matter what your body fat % REALLY is...well, it is a curious thing, though....but my point is that you can use your tools (calipers, scales, whatever) to judge if you are making progress. The actualy number you come up with may be :bs: but as long as it's moving in the right direction on a cut...that's what matters.

Indeed.

[fitmommy]

Y'all are right about it not being important what your true # is. But it took me a long time to get over wanting to know.

I am going to use the trainer at the gym to measure me though, just to see if I am going down. I will ignore the #s
Oh, I wish I had Erik w/ me when she told me she was3% bodyfat.:popcorn: :funny:

[Ali]

More importantly. Why does it even matter? Who cares? 10%, 12%? Whatever. The mirror tells you if you're fat or not.

Fuck! :bawling:

[Ana]

I look great naked right after I lift my ass and stomach off the floor :thumb:

[Ecala]

Naw, she wouldn't do that. She does stay pretty lean year round, though...w/o making muslce gains, though...and she works her ass off. OT continually.


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was her.

[fitmommy]

Fuck! :bawling:
:lol3: :lol3:

[Erik]

Fuck! :bawling:

Slow poke. :lol3:

[MichelleS]

I look great naked right after I lift my ass and stomach off the floor :thumb:
Yes I look great right after that too.

[Ali]

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was her.

Really? No, I don't know for sure. She was saying 3%?? Ore was it 10%? 10, I can believe she would say. The pics that you see of her...that's pretty much her leanness year round.

[Ecala]

OHhh no the 10% year round. Not 3%.

[Ana]

OHhh no the 10% year round. Not 3%.
Who are you guys talking about?

[Ali]

OHhh no the 10% year round. Not 3%.

It's probably not too far off. :shrug:

[Ali]

Who are you guys talking about?

Buffmother.

[Ana]

Buffmother.

Oh her she's a prize :hehehmn:

[Ali]

Oh her she's a prize :hehehmn:

:scratch:

[Built]

I'm BEYOND too lazy to train like she does, but ya' gotta hand it to her - she's SMOKIN' hot!

[Ali]

I'm BEYOND too lazy to train like she does, but ya' gotta hand it to her - she's SMOKIN' hot!

Ya, that made me dread working out. :sad:

[Ana]

:scratch:
Isn't she hot and cut and ripped?
And beautiful to boot? Unless I'm thinking of the wrong person

[Ali]

Isn't she hot and cut and ripped?
And beautiful to boot? Unless I'm thinking of the wrong person

Oh, yes...very much so...and big bazoonga's too. :drool:

[Ana]

Oh, yes...very much so...and big bazoonga's too. :drool:
ok that part I can do without I'm not a boobie girl.
But yeah she's got it going on :hehehmn:

[Cass]

ok that part I can do without I'm not a boobie girl.

:love:

[Ali]

ok that part I can do without I'm not a boobie girl.
But yeah she's got it going on :hehehmn:

I am...just 'cause I don't have any to enjoy. :lol3: Ya always want what ya can't have...or something like that. Well, I guess I could...but I'm not gonna.

[Ecala]

ok that part I can do without I'm not a boobie girl.



:love:

[fitmommy]

Buffmother is cool, I like her.

when I said someone on O2 I meant this "new girl" here is her post, it is long I highlighted the body fat part...



Jen Heath
Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Idaho Falls, ID
Posts: 12


Mother of Four, a Bodybuilder?

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Yes, it is true...I have four children! I am a professional bodybuilder in the NGA, and yes...it wa tough! However, I am happy as can be about the level of fitness that I have achieved. My kids are my inspiration (they love to flex their biceps for me):-)

I have been doing personalized programs for training and nutrition for many years, and have had great success for myself and for many others. Below is a typical off season weekly training scheme for me:

When I am not getting ready for a competition, I go into my OFF SEASON, where I focus on building and sculpting my muscles. My nutrition does not change much in quality, but it does change in quantity. I eat a higher calorie count, as for normal living I am more comfortable at a body fat higher than that of a competition level (10-11% rather than 6-7%). Unlike contest prep, off seasons at least for me include a little cheat here and there. I have a big family, and this is impossible to avoid! I am just careful to include it in my daily calorie count.
I do some modeling in my off season, so there are actually time where I will revert to a stricter calorie count in order to trim down for pictures, maybe for a two week time frame here and there. It is good to vary nutrition just as it is your training, and a period like this might last about two weeks or so. Then I go back up in calories again.

Here are some general guidelines I follow for off season nutrition:

1) At least 160-185 grams of protein each day
2) Roughly 2000 calories on my weight training days
(which you will read later lack no hardcore qualities
3) About 1600-1800 calories on cardio/cross training days
4) I eat lots of carbs around my workouts - no ifs and or butts about it!
5) I supplement with vitamins and a BCAA/Creatine water drink during and after my workouts

For me, keeping my fat intake somewhere around 20% and NO MORE than 30% seems to work well for me. Any more than that and my body may start to store some unnecessary fat. To see an example menu for my off season, you can go to my website at www.jenheath.com

For training, there are two schemes that I alternate between. The first involves a split and looks something like this:

M: Heavy chest and back, light biceps, triceps and deltoids
T: Cardio - Low intensity intervals or cross training only. I try to avoid high intensity Cardio in my off season. It is more for fat loss rather than maintenance. However, fot those trying to burn fat, HIT is a GREAT idea!!!
W: Quads, hamstrings/glutes, Calves with a possible widowmaker (set of 20) set of squats
TH: Cardio or crosstrainer
F: Heavy shoulders, biceps and trisceps, light chest and back
S: Light legs (as a recovery workout) and/or cardio

I use this scheme to properly stimulate my nervous system to maximize recovery and growth. It works incredibly well. As I progress from week to week on this scheme, I will increase my sets and decrease reps. By keeping volume up but varying load, you can continue to get growth more effectively for a longer time frame.

I firmly believe that switching your workout too often will minimize potential gains from any training time frame. This scheme allows for maximum gains.

The other scheme I use is one that only a certain type of genetic/metabolism can handle without overreaching/overtraining.

I am a FULL BODY WORKOUT LOVER. I enjoy a specialized three full body workouts per week scheme. They vary in intensity. Let me describe...

M: POWER/STRENGTH DAY
Heavy weights, low reps, basic movements
Week 1 and 2: 3 sets, 5-6 reps
Week 3 and 4: 4 sets, 4-5 reps
Week 5 and 6: 5 sets, 3-4 reps

W: PUMP-DENSITY/REST PAUSE DAY
5 sets, 5-12 reps with 20 seconds in between sets, going down in weight if I can't pump out 5 reps at any given set

F: TRADITIONAL BB WORKOUT
Week 1 and 2: 2-3 sets, 10-12 reps
Week 3 and 4: 3 sets, 8-10 reps
Week 5 and 6: 4 sets, 6-8 reps

Plus, 1 intensity technique set on the last set i.e. partials, flushing, drop set etc..I do not like to use intensity techniques a whole lot, because they mostly just make you more susceptible to injury, but when not over utilized, used in moderation, (i.e.when you have two days to rest) they can be very effective.

I do this workout one of three ways:

1- Standard straight sets
2 - Different exercises for each muscle each and every set
3- Supersetting appropriate muscle groups

This full body workout scheme works well for someone whose nervous system can stand that kind of stimulation and who is willing to eat the calories/macros necessary to build muscle mass! The various intensities and muscle fibers that are hit my training this way can seriously instigate enormous growth. Conversely it can throw one into a state of overtraining in a fast hurry if they are not genetically suited to handle it, do not rest or eat sufficient calories.

I have very specific details about my full body workouts here:

http://www.jenheath.com/tntradfbexamples.html

which most of you women would LOVE!

One other thing, even I do not repeat the full body workouts for more than one cycle. Switching back to plan 1 not only allows a break from such frequent training of the muscles, but the immense response I will get by going back to my split makes it all worthwhile!

Jen Heath, NGA PRO
Email me at yourlife@jenheath.com with questions

[MichelleS]

:uhuh: now its boobie talk.

[Inatic]

I am...just 'cause I don't have any to enjoy. :lol3: Ya always want what ya can't have...or something like that. Well, I guess I could...but I'm not gonna.

Im glad i lost mine.

[Ana]

I am...just 'cause I don't have any to enjoy. :lol3: Ya always want what ya can't have...or something like that. Well, I guess I could...but I'm not gonna.
I don't have much either, and I'm hoping to end up with even less :shrug:

[smuggie]

Year round? :uhuh:
Did she tell you her secret to being able to post and compete while dead? :unsure: :lol:
:lol3:

[Inatic]

:uhuh: now its boobie talk.

It goes with Bf ;)

[smuggie]

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it was her.
I think it is too.

[Ecala]

http://www.jenheath.com/images/219_REAR_DOUBLE_BIedited.jpg

At the end of my road...70 lbs lighter and at 7% body fat...

[Erik]

http://www.jenheath.com/images/219_REAR_DOUBLE_BIedited.jpg

At the end of my road...70 lbs lighter and at 7% body fat...

7%? No, I don't think so. Upper body looks lean; lower body, not so much.

[smuggie]

http://www.jenheath.com/images/219_REAR_DOUBLE_BIedited.jpg

At the end of my road...70 lbs lighter and at 7% body fat...
7% my ass.

[MichelleS]

7% my ass.
your as is 7% Damn woman lets see that then. :lol:

[Ecala]

7% my ass.


Nooo, 7% her ass. :)

[smuggie]

your as is 7% Damn woman lets see that then. :lol:
You know damn well what I meant. :pimpslap:

[MichelleS]

You know damn well what I meant. :pimpslap:
:wink:

[Built]

For reference, my "trunk" DEXA-tested out at 7.4% bodyfat in my now infamous ab shot.

[smuggie]

For reference, my "trunk" DEXA-tested out at 7.4% bodyfat in my now infamous ab shot.
That is amazing.

[Erik]

For reference, my "trunk" DEXA-tested out at 7.4% bodyfat in my now infamous ab shot.

See, that's far more believable. :lol3:

What were the other measurements?

[Built]

I thought it was interesting to see where it all was.

[Built]

Erik, I sent you the rest of the results, but I'll reproduce them here:

As of November 2005 (age 42):
Left arm: 11.1%
Right arm: 8.9% (I'm right-handed)
Trunk: 7.4%
Left leg: 22.8%
Right leg: 23.9%
Overall: 14.3%

LBM: 109.1 lbs
Bone: 5.3 lbs
Fat: 18.5 lbs
Total bodyweight: 127.6 lbs

For reference, age 38, I was 170 lbs and reverse engineering from where I am now, close to 40% bodyfat.

I went from a size 14 on the bottom to a size 2.

[Erik]

Erik, I sent you the rest of the results, but I'll reproduce them here:

As of November 2005 (age 42):
Left arm: 11.1%
Right arm: 8.9% (I'm right-handed)
Trunk: 7.4%
Left leg: 22.8%
Right leg: 23.9%
Overall: 14.3%

LBM: 109.1 lbs
Bone: 5.3 lbs
Fat: 18.5 lbs
Total bodyweight: 127.6 lbs

For reference, age 38, I was 170 lbs and reverse engineering from where I am now, close to 40% bodyfat.

I went from a size 14 on the bottom to a size 2.

Oops. I forgot I had those. :oops:

Great numbers and great progress from your starting point.

[Built]

Thank you. I did a lot of reading to figure out what to do. Your posts were no small part of my success.

[Leah]

Erik, I sent you the rest of the results, but I'll reproduce them here:

As of November 2005 (age 42):
Left arm: 11.1%
Right arm: 8.9% (I'm right-handed)
Trunk: 7.4%
Left leg: 22.8%
Right leg: 23.9%
Overall: 14.3%

LBM: 109.1 lbs
Bone: 5.3 lbs
Fat: 18.5 lbs
Total bodyweight: 127.6 lbs

For reference, age 38, I was 170 lbs and reverse engineering from where I am now, close to 40% bodyfat.

I went from a size 14 on the bottom to a size 2.

That is cool....I didn't know they broke it all up like that.

[Built]

It WAS cool.

"Head" is part of it too:17.5% bodyfat

What I'm particularly interested in is the "lean" - the amount of non-bone lean mass - in my case, 96.5 lbs not couning the head, 103.8 counting the head.

[smuggie]

Erik, I sent you the rest of the results, but I'll reproduce them here:

As of November 2005 (age 42):
Left arm: 11.1%
Right arm: 8.9% (I'm right-handed)
Trunk: 7.4%
Left leg: 22.8%
Right leg: 23.9%
Overall: 14.3%

LBM: 109.1 lbs
Bone: 5.3 lbs
Fat: 18.5 lbs
Total bodyweight: 127.6 lbs

For reference, age 38, I was 170 lbs and reverse engineering from where I am now, close to 40% bodyfat.

I went from a size 14 on the bottom to a size 2.
Fantastic.

[Built]

And Leah, your posts were no small part of my success either.

[smuggie]

"Head" is part of it too:17.5% bodyfat
So what % would make one a fathead? :funny:

[Built]

Thanks Smuggie.

I'm interested to see what happens to my legs this cut - I've been doing very different quad work since my back injury - hopefully it'll pay off.

And I'm hoping to be a fathead now. Fatty brains and all. ;)

[Erik]

Thanks Smuggie.

I'm interested to see what happens to my legs this cut - I've been doing very different quad work since my back injury - hopefully it'll pay off.


But that trains the muscles underneath the fat ... :confused:

[Leah]

And Leah, your posts were no small part of my success either.

Good to see you out of lurk mode :wink:

[Ecala]

And I'm hoping to be a fathead now. Fatty brains and all. ;)


:clap: fish oil.

[Built]

But that trains the muscles underneath the fat ... :confused:

Exactly. I'm one of those rare hamstring-dominant types. No shape through the quads. I'm hoping to change that.

[Inatic]

Good to see you out of lurk mode :wink:

:)

[Erik]

Exactly. I'm one of those rare hamstring-dominant types. No shape through the quads. I'm hoping to change that.

My question though is ... how does that affect your ability to get your lower body lean?

[Built]

It won't.

What I'm hoping is that my legs will at least have a more aesthetic shape.

And maybe if I can get a little more muscle there, they'll at least show that shape at higher bodyfat.

[JulieT]

Holy crap. I had an interview, so I was off line studying for it last night and out this morning. 21 pages of responses?

Anyway, I'm 5'8". 20% is avg for body fat from the caliper measurement I had done at the YMCA (I have no idea how accurate that is). I'm a size 6 in clothing, and I've always been dense (as in heavier than I look). I lift 3x per week and run ~ 5 miles/day when I'm not lifting.

Thanks for the responses - or at least for the ones who actually responded to my question. I live in the fattest city on the planet, so finding anyone around here for guidance/support is almost impossible. Obviously, if I eat like crap all the time, it won't happen. I'm trying to avoid surgery by suppressing my estrogen through lower body fat. My drs have offered up Lupron as an alternative, but I have no interest in putting that in my body.

More than anything, I just wondered what on average is maintainable for you. I figure most people on this board are a lot more dedicated than I am - especially those of you who compete. And if you tell me you the best you can maintain long-term is 17-20%, than I can at least set myself a realistic goal and start looking for a surgeon. However, if everyone is maintaining at 10%, maybe I have a shot. Thanks!

Built - Wow! I'm blown away by your numbers. That is awesome!

Julie

[Inatic]

Holy crap. I had an interview, so I was off line studying for it last night and out this morning. 21 pages of responses?

Anyway, I'm 5'8". 20% is avg for body fat from the caliper measurement I had done at the YMCA (I have no idea how accurate that is). I'm a size 6 in clothing, and I've always been dense (as in heavier than I look). I lift 3x per week and run ~ 5 miles/day when I'm not lifting.

Thanks for the responses - or at least for the ones who actually responded to my question. I live in the fattest city on the planet, so finding anyone around here for guidance/support is almost impossible. Obviously, if I eat like crap all the time, it won't happen. I'm trying to avoid surgery by suppressing my estrogen through lower body fat. My drs have offered up Lupron as an alternative, but I have no interest in putting that in my body.

More than anything, I just wondered what on average is maintainable for you. I figure most people on this board are a lot more dedicated than I am - especially those of you who compete. And if you tell me you the best you can maintain long-term is 17-20%, than I can at least set myself a realistic goal and start looking for a surgeon. However, if everyone is maintaining at 10%, maybe I have a shot. Thanks!

Built - Wow! I'm blown away by your numbers. That is awesome!

Julie


I hope you can stay off the meds too.

As you cant tell, most of us dont pay mind to body fat. (EDIT:) percentages We cant tell you what we maintain at other than a mirror image of satisfaction.

You have to maintain where your happy, not at someone else percieved level.

[Ecala]

As you cant tell, most of us dont pay mind to body fat


Uh... who says? :shrug:

I sure do!

[Ecala]

(unless you meant BF percentages)

[Built]

Julie - thanks! I'm not quite where I'd be if I could wave my magic wand, but I'm SO MUCH BETTER than I was ... and I changed my destiny. It's a huge relief to be in control of my weight, up OR down.

[Ali]

Holy crap. I had an interview, so I was off line studying for it last night and out this morning. 21 pages of responses?

Anyway, I'm 5'8". 20% is avg for body fat from the caliper measurement I had done at the YMCA (I have no idea how accurate that is). I'm a size 6 in clothing, and I've always been dense (as in heavier than I look). I lift 3x per week and run ~ 5 miles/day when I'm not lifting.

Thanks for the responses - or at least for the ones who actually responded to my question. I live in the fattest city on the planet, so finding anyone around here for guidance/support is almost impossible. Obviously, if I eat like crap all the time, it won't happen. I'm trying to avoid surgery by suppressing my estrogen through lower body fat. My drs have offered up Lupron as an alternative, but I have no interest in putting that in my body.

More than anything, I just wondered what on average is maintainable for you. I figure most people on this board are a lot more dedicated than I am - especially those of you who compete. And if you tell me you the best you can maintain long-term is 17-20%, than I can at least set myself a realistic goal and start looking for a surgeon. However, if everyone is maintaining at 10%, maybe I have a shot. Thanks!

Built - Wow! I'm blown away by your numbers. That is awesome!

Julie

Julie, I think our point is that what you think is 17-20%, may not actually be 17-20%. I don't know what bodyfat % I am, but I can maintain a fairly lean look.

[Inatic]

(unless you meant BF percentages)


sorry meant BF percentages. YES we do care about bf. ;)

I'll go back and edit.

[MichelleS]

Julie, I think our point is that what you think is 17-20%, may not actually be 17-20%. I don't know what bodyfat % I am, but I can maintain a fairly lean look.
:yeahthat:

[Ali]

Julie - thanks! I'm not quite where I'd be if I could wave my magic wand, but I'm SO MUCH BETTER than I was ... and I changed my destiny. It's a huge relief to be in control of my weight, up OR down.

:nod: :thumb:

In control is a good feeling.

[Jen]

according to calipers i am 11%, according to those automatic weight scales I am 28% on a good day drinking lots of water, handheld testers I am like 9 when my hands are cold.
pinch me, its water, not fat :laugh:


Built- cool to have you here:) I didnt know meaurments could be split in % for each bodypart! where did you have that done?

[Ali]

Ya, those freaking scales always put me like double my caliper measurements. :pimpslap: to scale.

[Ecala]

Ya, those freaking scales always put me like double my caliper measurements. :pimpslap: to scale.


Really? You mean the tanita scales for example? OH good, maybe mine is really over-off too.

[Erik]

Do the girls using calipers as their method of assessment use the male or female predictive equations?

11% on a girl is 6% on a guy assuming identical skinfold readings over 7 sites. 9% - closer to 4%.

[Jen]

Do the girls using calipers as their method of assessment use the male or female predictive equations?

11% on a girl is 6% on a guy assuming identical skinfold readings over 7 sites. 9% - closer to 4%.

I use female

[Built]

Atherjen - that the same Atherjen from FM?

I got DEXAd at a local hospital, through Nuclear Medicine.

[Inatic]

Ya, those freaking scales always put me like double my caliper measurements. :pimpslap: to scale.

As Nancy used to say, " Scale = random number generator"

Those scales have me at like 28% too. :shrug:


Orig Posted by Thunder
Do the girls using calipers as their method of assessment use the male or female predictive equations?

11% on a girl is 6% on a guy assuming identical skinfold readings over 7 sites. 9% - closer to 4%.

I didnt know it had that option. X-trainer used a 9pt(hmmm or maybe it was a 7) EDIT: Nope, it was a 9....program. I dont believe it differentiated. I'll ask if i see him again. intesting.

[Jen]

Atherjen - that the same Atherjen from FM?

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I am the one and only Atherjen :)

[Built]

Awesome!

[Jen]

I wanted to be DEXad' next year rigth before comp for interest and giggles.
Ill start a bet as a fundraiser "whats my bodyfat %" hehe

[Erik]

I use female

That would mean you're on par with a 6% male. I'm going to have to say that's a bit on the low side. :oops:

[Jen]

That would mean you're on par with a 6% male. I'm going to have to say that's a bit on the low side. :oops:

I dont think Im THAT low though. that was taken 6 weeks ago last set of pics (see sig, page 2). at 146lbs.
I have great disbelief in what calipers have ever told me :shrug:
thus, why I dont care much about bf%

[nikegurl]

Julie - thanks! I'm not quite where I'd be if I could wave my magic wand, but I'm SO MUCH BETTER than I was ... and I changed my destiny. It's a huge relief to be in control of my weight, up OR down.

:thumb: awesome progress and i know you've inspired many. :clap:

[radgirl]

All I have to say is that each and every lady here (guys too) is a huge inspiration for me. I can only hope to look that great one day. :love:

[Ana]

All I have to say is that each and every lady here (guys too) is a huge inspiration for me. I can only hope to look that great one day. :love:

You will :wink:

So will I. Takes longer for some of us but we'll get there :)