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tam
05-12-2006, 03:01 AM
Ok, I workout at home so I didn't even know what a Smith Machine looked like except for pics I saw online. I was out of town and a few of us went to a ladies gym and they had a smith machine. I watched 2 girls use it, and holy smokes, I understand what issues are! Not saying I have perfect form, but oh doggy!

First, I think they were in it backwards because when they were squatting they were actually leaning backwards. I don't know how to describe it, other than that their shoulders were behind their feet.

I tried it just to feel the difference, and I wanted to do some heavy squats and they didn't have barbells, only dumbbells. I got in it how I thought would be the right way and it was so awkward! I didn't like that it was holding me in place on the way up and down, and most of my focus was on keeping the bar turned so the latch didn't catch on me and hang me up!

Anyways, I'm glad for all the advice from everyone about free weights. Years ago when I did weights I wouldn't have thought about picking up a free weight, and now it's much preferred :)

Leah
05-12-2006, 03:06 AM
I hate the smith machine :huh:

Pandora
05-12-2006, 03:21 AM
Ditto. It's good for amusement, though. I love watching people act like badasses in it.

CraveMuscle
05-12-2006, 03:24 AM
I saw a woman today doing plie-like squats on the smith machine with 5 lbs on each side. I had to leave the room before I said something ugly.

Forged
05-12-2006, 03:24 AM
Has anyone met Smith?

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:27 AM
It does have a purpose . You can get under it supine and do body rows. That is about it though. :lol:

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:27 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:27 PM
It does have a purpose . You can get under it supine and do body rows. That is about it though. :lol:
You can do hip mobility drills on it

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:29 AM
Cool. Lets find good uses for the smith machine. :)

Forged
05-12-2006, 03:30 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 08:29 PM
Cool. Lets find good uses for the smith machine. :)
Adjustable height towel rack.

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Actually, it can be cool to do one leg squats. Set the bar where you can hold on and do bodyweight one leg squats. The bar does not move but supports you until you are strong enough to do without.

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:29 PM
Cool. Lets find good uses for the smith machine. :)
Well, both of those things could just have easily been done in a power rack, so I still don't see a need for it.

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:31 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:31 PM
Actually, it can be cool to do one leg squats. Set the bar where you can hold on and do bodyweight one leg squats. The bar does not move but supports you until you are strong enough to do without.
Also can be done in a power rack.

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 11 2006, 10:31 PM
Also can be done in a power rack.
True. Ok. What can you do in a Smith machine that is worthwhile?That you can't do on anything else.

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:34 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:33 PM
True. Ok. What can you do in a Smith machine that is worthwhile?That you can't do on anything else.
Nothing

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 11 2006, 10:34 PM
Nothing
I agree.

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:37 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:35 PM
I agree.
Then we win!

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:38 AM
Yay! We are great! :clap:

tam
05-12-2006, 03:38 AM
I thought one girl was using it moreso to show off her stomach. She was at about a 45 degree angle with her stomach towards the ceiling and she was grunting and blowing like she was lifting 300 pounds. Ok, kind of like moves from the Matrix, but in the Smith Machine. http://msfit.musclemag.com//images/smilies/loser.gif

It was quite entertaining to watch, I must admit! :train:

smuggie
05-12-2006, 03:45 AM
Why does everyone hate the Smith machine? :unsure:

I use it for squats and deadlifts. :clap:
















:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:45 AM
I'm going to try it for dumbbell curls tomorrow.

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 11 2006, 10:45 PM
I'm going to try it for dumbbell curls tomorrow.
You go girl! :lol: :lol:

Erik
05-12-2006, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by donnajo@May 11 2006, 11:48 PM
You go girl! :lol: :lol:
Girl?

donnajo
05-12-2006, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 11 2006, 10:51 PM
Girl?
It's just a saying. :lol:

Bravogrl27
05-12-2006, 04:11 AM
The gym I checked out tonight has two of them . . . they're kinda fancy looking compared to the last gym . . . If I see people using them, I'll take notes, but tonight no one was using them.

smilelari
05-12-2006, 04:13 AM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.

Bravogrl27
05-12-2006, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by smilelari@May 11 2006, 11:13 PM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.
You can use it to do pushups? Do you put your feet on the bar? That would be interesting to see. I do pushups off my balance ball sometimes--or off other surfaces, but I'm not that strong yet so I can't do that many varieties.

Pandora
05-12-2006, 04:37 AM
Originally posted by smilelari@May 11 2006, 11:13 PM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.
HI!! I know you. :D

Bravogrl27
05-12-2006, 04:39 AM
Originally posted by Pandora+May 11 2006, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pandora @ May 11 2006, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-smilelari@May 11 2006, 11:13 PM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.
HI&#33;&#33; I know you. :D [/b][/quote]
Do you know how she does pushups on it? I&#39;m very intrigued...

CraveMuscle
05-12-2006, 05:44 AM
you put your hands on the elevated bar and feet on the ground. it&#39;s a way to work up to regular ground pushups.

mark
05-12-2006, 06:19 AM
Every time I do a tour in the gym, I stop by the Smith machine and give a small spiel about the crappy biomechanics. LOL&#33;&#33;

Gazelle
05-12-2006, 10:43 AM
I do negative pullups in the Smith machine. I ALWAYS see people doing the pushup thing with their hands on the bar. Trainers make their clients do this too.

LisaBunny
05-12-2006, 11:34 AM
There is one trainer at the gym that has her clients do all their workouts on the smith. The entire workout, spent on the smith. Squats, plie squats, one legged squats, step ups, bench, you name it, its done one the smith :rolleyes:

I feel bad for the client...&#036;1000 bucks down the drain.

3sweeties
05-12-2006, 11:36 AM
:oops: I have an embarassing smith machine story. We have a smith machine that I haven&#39;t used since I learned how evil they are. Monday I was to lazy to move stuff around to do military press and decided I&#39;d just sit and do shoulder press on the smith. I was messing with where to put my hands and I released the bar accidentally and it came crashing down on the back of my neck. OUCH. So that ended my workout. My neck is still sore and I&#39;m going to have to find a home for the smith so I&#39;m never tempted agian. :lol:

smilelari
05-12-2006, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by CraveMuscle@May 12 2006, 12:44 AM
you put your hands on the elevated bar and feet on the ground. it&#39;s a way to work up to regular ground pushups.
Exactly :p

smilelari
05-12-2006, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Pandora+May 11 2006, 11:37 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pandora @ May 11 2006, 11:37 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-smilelari@May 11 2006, 11:13 PM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.
HI&#33;&#33; I know you. :D [/b][/quote]
Hi Jess&#33;

DeeDee
05-12-2006, 01:24 PM
There&#39;s one woman at my gym who does "leg presses" with the smith: she lays on the floor on her back underneath the bar and pushes it up with her legs. :blink:

Bravogrl27
05-12-2006, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by CraveMuscle@May 12 2006, 12:44 AM
you put your hands on the elevated bar and feet on the ground. it&#39;s a way to work up to regular ground pushups.
bump. why not just do regular ground pushups? I can&#39;t do that many of them granted, but the more I practice, the better I get . . . me being the clutz I am would probably find a way to hurt myself trying to do pushups on the smith machine . . . it just sounds like it&#39;s overcomplicating something simple??

smilelari
05-12-2006, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by Bravogrl27@May 12 2006, 08:27 AM
bump. why not just do regular ground pushups? I can&#39;t do that many of them granted, but the more I practice, the better I get . . . me being the clutz I am would probably find a way to hurt myself trying to do pushups on the smith machine . . . it just sounds like it&#39;s overcomplicating something simple??
I do regular pushups now (and still not that many), but it seemed like an ok way to work up to them. Maybe some of you guys disagree...

CraveMuscle
05-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by Bravogrl27@May 12 2006, 08:27 AM
bump. why not just do regular ground pushups? I can&#39;t do that many of them granted, but the more I practice, the better I get . . . me being the clutz I am would probably find a way to hurt myself trying to do pushups on the smith machine . . . it just sounds like it&#39;s overcomplicating something simple??
I did this originally when I was rehabing from a bilateral shoulder injury since I could put the bar at the notch about a foot off the ground and get some simulation of a pushup without overstressing my shoulders. My scapula just didn&#39;t work well enough to physically do ground pushups or the "girl" ones.

Erik
05-12-2006, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by DeeDee@May 12 2006, 09:24 AM
There&#39;s one woman at my gym who does "leg presses" with the smith: she lays on the floor on her back underneath the bar and pushes it up with her legs. :blink:
That&#39;s retarded.

LUVPINK222
05-12-2006, 04:27 PM
Just curious, why is the Smith Machine so bad? I do my squats there becasue otherwise I feel &#39;unsafe&#39; lifting a barbell that heavy behind my neck with no one to spot me, does that make sense?

NCfitnessgirl
05-12-2006, 04:38 PM
I can&#39;t imagine going back to the Smith for anything. I&#39;d actually feel more unstable. It&#39;s such an awesome feeling to know that you, yourself, without any help, could squat all that weight.

Erik
05-12-2006, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by LUVPINK222@May 12 2006, 12:27 PM
Just curious, why is the Smith Machine so bad? I do my squats there becasue otherwise I feel &#39;unsafe&#39; lifting a barbell that heavy behind my neck with no one to spot me, does that make sense?
Umm, you&#39;re not to be doing squats on the Smith machine. Get off it.

You can go over to O2 and review the Smith machine thread.

LUVPINK222
05-12-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by Thunder@May 12 2006, 11:38 AM
Umm, you&#39;re not to be doing squats on the Smith machine. Get off it.

You can go over to O2 and review the Smith machine thread.
poop....yes, sir&#33;

LUVPINK222
05-12-2006, 05:12 PM
Ok, that makes sense&#33; Thanks for the information, now I know better&#33;

cocoa71
05-12-2006, 08:05 PM
I recently..(2 or so months ago) stopped using the smith machine and the other machine for squats (I don&#39;t know what it&#39;s called but there are two pads that sit on your shoulder and the weights are in front of you but to the side and you hold on to two handles that come down and out from the shoulder pads) Anyways, just for kicks I decided to go back to try those two machines and I really notice a difference, the smith machine is stiff and other machine is really confining and hurts my shoulder&#39;s. :sad:

My change is all due to O2 and this board&#33; :)

Happy to have made the change&#33;

marshmaven
05-13-2006, 05:06 AM
At my gym people love the smith machine. Not so much for leg work, but I always, and I mean always, see guys using it for their bench presses. We have something like 5 bench set ups, but they use that.

On a side note, I&#39;ve seen at my gym, more than once now, someone put collars on the smith machine. I almost burst out laughing. It&#39;s the smith machine&#33; Logic is apparently not everyones friend.

Leah
05-13-2006, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by marshmaven@May 13 2006, 01:06 AM
At my gym people love the smith machine. Not so much for leg work, but I always, and I mean always, see guys using it for their bench presses. We have something like 5 bench set ups, but they use that.

On a side note, I&#39;ve seen at my gym, more than once now, someone put collars on the smith machine. I almost burst out laughing. It&#39;s the smith machine&#33; Logic is apparently not everyones friend.
Oh yeah?

Geighest thing I ever saw on a smith machine was someone doing bent over rows. W/ a mixed grip. And straps.

:blink:

Ames
05-13-2006, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by LisaBunny@May 12 2006, 05:34 AM
There is one trainer at the gym that has her clients do all their workouts on the smith. The entire workout, spent on the smith. Squats, plie squats, one legged squats, step ups, bench, you name it, its done one the smith :rolleyes:

I feel bad for the client...&#036;1000 bucks down the drain.
How are step ups even possible on the Smith? The ones at my gym I don&#39;t think would go up high enough to do a step up, unless you&#39;re stepping up on one of those steps that all the ladies use for aerobics&#33;

Robben
05-13-2006, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Leah+May 13 2006, 07:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leah @ May 13 2006, 07:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-marshmaven@May 13 2006, 01:06 AM
At my gym people love the smith machine. Not so much for leg work, but I always, and I mean always, see guys using it for their bench presses. We have something like 5 bench set ups, but they use that.

On a side note, I&#39;ve seen at my gym, more than once now, someone put collars on the smith machine. I almost burst out laughing. It&#39;s the smith machine&#33; Logic is apparently not everyones friend.
Oh yeah?

Geighest thing I ever saw on a smith machine was someone doing bent over rows. W/ a mixed grip. And straps.

:blink: [/b][/quote]
:funny:

3LP
05-13-2006, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Leah+May 13 2006, 07:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leah @ May 13 2006, 07:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-marshmaven@May 13 2006, 01:06 AM
At my gym people love the smith machine. Not so much for leg work, but I always, and I mean always, see guys using it for their bench presses. We have something like 5 bench set ups, but they use that.

On a side note, I&#39;ve seen at my gym, more than once now, someone put collars on the smith machine. I almost burst out laughing. It&#39;s the smith machine&#33; Logic is apparently not everyones friend.
Oh yeah?

Geighest thing I ever saw on a smith machine was someone doing bent over rows. W/ a mixed grip. And straps.

:blink: [/b][/quote]
They do that at my gym too.. And shrugs. Hundreds of shrugs. For hours and hours. Seems the trapezius needs to be worked MUCH more than any other muscle in your body. :blink:

janey
05-13-2006, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by Leah+May 13 2006, 07:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Leah @ May 13 2006, 07:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-marshmaven@May 13 2006, 01:06 AM
At my gym people love the smith machine. Not so much for leg work, but I always, and I mean always, see guys using it for their bench presses. We have something like 5 bench set ups, but they use that.

On a side note, I&#39;ve seen at my gym, more than once now, someone put collars on the smith machine. I almost burst out laughing. It&#39;s the smith machine&#33; Logic is apparently not everyones friend.
Oh yeah?

Geighest thing I ever saw on a smith machine was someone doing bent over rows. W/ a mixed grip. And straps.

:blink: [/b][/quote]
That beats all. :funny:

LUVPINK222
05-13-2006, 10:27 PM
SO I&#39;m really proud of myself&#33; On friday I did squats NOT with the Smith Machine but using the power cage I think it&#39;s called. I was a little nervous at first but I did good&#33; I did alot more weight than I thought I was capable of&#33; :clap: YEA for me&#33;

Chelsinator
05-13-2006, 10:42 PM
There was a trainer at my old gym who used to have his clients do upright rows on the smith...with no weight on it.

I have also seen the guys bench press on it using collars. They use the same amount on the smith that I use on the bench....meaning they are actually using about 40 pounds less than I am. "Dude, I&#39;m a chick...how bad to you look?" Anyway, whatever. I think the reason people use the smith for benching is that it LOOKS like they are benching more than they are. They can throw Big Boy weights on there(meaning 45s) and eliminate actually having to lift 45 pounds worth of bar...but still look tough to all the dummies in the gym who don&#39;t know the bar on the smith weighs just about nothing.

I also saw a guy load 6 plates onto each side on the smith once, then proceed to have one dude spot him while he basically just bounced the bar up and down about a 2 inches, barely bending his elbows. One time, he bent his elbows just a BIT too much, and the whole bar cam crashing down onto his throat...and his spotter couldn&#39;t do ANYTHING about it, and of course he couldn&#39;t even roll the bar off himself cuz HELLOOOO, it&#39;s on a track :blink: so then 2 other guys (my dad included) had to run over and lift the bar from either side so he could slide out. Friggin dumb ass.

chaza
05-13-2006, 11:45 PM
I see people in the smith machine at my gym all the time. I&#39;m tempted to say something, but many of the girls I see using it have much better physiques than me, so who am I to say anything to them. :blink:

jaleena
05-14-2006, 04:26 PM
So they look better...do they lift better? I don&#39;t say stuff to people who don&#39;t ask for help/comment on my lifting, but if they start a conversation, feel free to tell them what works.

mark
05-14-2006, 05:41 PM
Our gym has one of those smiths with the angled track. A bit better, but not a whole lot. And since they usually stand in it backwards, they completely negate any benefit the angle would have given them. :suicide:

jaleena
05-14-2006, 09:11 PM
My gym has an angled one, too.

BUT...I just saw an ad for this contraption called the Jones Machine. Like the Smith, but created by somebody with two brain cells to rub together. It allows for horizontal motion, as well as vertical motion...supposedly, you can have the exact bar paths you&#39;d have with free weights.
Somehow, I imagine this will make it sooo much harder to convince anybody that there&#39;s any benefit to freeweights.

Leah
05-14-2006, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by jaleena@May 14 2006, 05:11 PM
the Jones Machine.
:funny:

jaleena
05-14-2006, 09:18 PM
I&#39;m not the one who coined that&#33; Even on a bad day, I&#39;ve got more than two brain cells&#33;

CraveMuscle
05-14-2006, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Leah@May 14 2006, 04:13 PM
:funny:
I just got the joke. :oops:

mark
05-14-2006, 09:33 PM
Weird&#33; And look....they even remembered to put the collars on&#33; LOL&#33;

http://www.beyondmoseying.com/bodycraft_jones-machine-movement.jpg

Leah
05-14-2006, 09:36 PM
:laugh:

fitcajungirl
05-15-2006, 02:01 AM
Originally posted by smilelari@May 11 2006, 11:13 PM
My first post here...

I sometimes use the Smith machine to set at different heights and do pushups.
I use the smith to do decline push ups, (feet on the bar and hands on the ground) and I set the bar at different heights to hit my chest/shoulders at different angles. It is really fun&#33;

Bravogrl27
05-15-2006, 03:57 AM
I was reminded of a good purpose for the smith machine today . . . I was reading an older 02 magazine and ran across that really cool competitor with no arms--she said that she squatted in the smith machine. So in her case, it was very helpful for her. Anyway, after all the poking fun of the darn thing, I thought it was cool to see it was helpful for someone. (I&#39;m being serious by the way, I really did think it was cool.)

LexyJoie
05-15-2006, 01:43 PM
Saw someone doing a deadlift type thing on the smith yesterday. It&#39;s hard not to point and laugh.