tea bad?

[lipipi]

Someone told me the other day at work...that Its not good to drink too much tea as it can give gut rot...
Is that true?
I drink like 5 "coffee mug size" of tea day.:confused:

[Blondell]

Tell that to the Chinese.


And, gut rot? :wth:

[JackieRTP]

:nope: Nope

[mich56]

No way. If someone has gut rot, they got other issues.

[Kate]

Tea good.

[lipipi]

Tell that to the Chinese.


And, gut rot? :wth:


:shrug:
Thats what I thought too! :lol3:

[K8TYE]

Hmmm...I did try to donate blood last week and my iron was low. The lady said that tea (green tea included) negatively affects iron levels. Never knew that before!!

[Sarah]

:eh: well, my gut should be fertilizer by now if it give you gut rot. so i highly doubt that it was correct.

[Inatic]

I googled and did come across some info about iron and tea. I also come across infor about tea and floride in relation to thyroid disease. I never know what to believe anymore :shrug:

Aaron?

[char-dawg]

Yes, yes, Aaron! Please tell us what to believe! :bowdown: :bowdown:






:lol:

[Aaron_F]

SORRY

I have too much Gut Rot to be the Messiah

[Espi]

What I do remember is that tea is absolutely horrific for your teeth when you're on antibiotics. After reading up on the beneficial effects of the anti-oxidants in (green) tea , I decided to drink it again while still on antibiotics.
Within 3 days my teeth were looking absolutely gross and it took tea/coffee abstinence plus rigorous cleaning with whitener to get rid of it.

Normally beneficial bacteria protect against excess staining.

[JJ29]

Hmmm...I did try to donate blood last week and my iron was low. The lady said that tea (green tea included) negatively affects iron levels. Never knew that before!!

Really? I drink tons of tea and my iron levels are pretty high...

[Inatic]

Yes, yes, Aaron! Please tell us what to believe! :bowdown: :bowdown:

:lol:

oh Poo Char! At least he has some studies to look at :shrug:

[Espi]

Searching for 'tea consumption' AND iron

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=12001007&dopt=Abstract


Temme EH, Van Hoydonck PG.
KU Leuven, Department of Public Health, Division of Nutritional Epidemiology, Leuven, Belgium. Liesbeth.Temme@med.kuleuven.ac.be

OBJECTIVE: To give an overview of the association between tea consumption and iron status.
METHODS: A PUBMED search was performed (up to June 2001) for all publications containing the words: tea and ferritin, h(a)emoglobin, iron status or an(a)emia. Sixteen studies were evaluated in groups with high (infants, children and premenopausal women) or low prevalence of iron deficiency (men and the elderly).

RESULTS AND DISCUSSION: Of the 16 studies reviewed, six included infants and children, six premenopausal women, two men and two the elderly.
In study groups with high prevalence of iron deficiency, tea consumption was inversely associated with serum ferritin and/or haemoglobin. The association disappeared when adjusting for confounding (dietary) factors, except for one study including 40% of iron deficient women.
In groups with low prevalence of iron deficiency, tea consumption was not inversely associated with serum ferritin and/or haemoglobin.
In those at risk for iron overload, such as middle-aged men, tea consumption may lower serum ferritin concentrations as reported in one study. This finding awaits further confirmation.

CONCLUSION: This overview shows that tea consumption does not influence iron status in Western populations in which most people have adequate iron stores as determined by serum ferritin concentrations. Only in populations of individuals with marginal iron status does there seem to be a negative association between tea consumption and iron status.

PMID: 12001007 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


Also from the same author an entire review: http://www.nature.com/ejcn/journal/v56/n5/abs/1601309a.html

Review
Tea consumption and iron status

E H M Temme and P G A Van Hoydonck

KU Leuven, Department of Public Health, Division of Nutritional Epidemiology, Leuven, Belgium

Correspondence to: E H M Temme, KU Leuven, Department of Public Health, Division of Nutritional Epidemiology, Kapucijnenvoer 33-35, B-3000 Leuven, Belgium.


Guarantor: EHM Temme.

Contributors: EHMT initiated the study and together with PGAVH participated in the collection, selection and critical evaluation of the publications overviewed. PGAVH prepared the first draft of the manuscript and was involved in the refinement of the final drafts prepared by EHMT. Both contributors participated intellectually in the development of the paper.


Abstract

Objective: To give an overview of the association between tea consumption and iron status.


Methods: A PUBMED search was performed (up to June 2001) for all publications containing the words: tea and ferritin, h(a)emoglobin, iron status or an(a)emia. Sixteen studies were evaluated in groups with high (infants, children and premenopausal women) or low prevalence of iron deficiency (men and the elderly).

Results and Discussion: Of the 16 studies reviewed, six included infants and children, six premenopausal women, two men and two the elderly. In study groups with high prevalence of iron deficiency, tea consumption was inversely associated with serum ferritin and/or haemoglobin.
The association disappeared when adjusting for confounding (dietary) factors, except for one study including 40% of iron deficient women. In groups with low prevalence of iron deficiency, tea consumption was not inversely associated with serum ferritin and/or haemoglobin.
In those at risk for iron overload, such as middle-aged men, tea consumption may lower serum ferritin concentrations as reported in one study. This finding awaits further confirmation.

Conclusion: This overview shows that tea consumption does not influence iron status in Western populations in which most people have adequate iron stores as determined by serum ferritin concentrations. Only in populations of individuals with marginal iron status does there seem to be a negative association between tea consumption and iron status.

European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (2002) 56, 379-386. DOI:10.1038/sj/ejcn/1601309

A blurb on risks of high fluoride intake (e.g. from tea) and weak bones:

http://fluoridealert.org/health/news/23.html


Issue #23: Study finds link between tea, fluoride, and weak bones
By Michael Connett

Earlier this week, I came across a study that had hitherto escaped my attention. The study, conducted by a team of French doctors, was published as an abstract last summer in the journal Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases (1).

The study’s findings are very interesting. The authors identified 5 patients in their practice who developed skeletal fluorosis as a consequence of drinking tea (primarily darjeeling tea) over a course of 10 to 25 years. The skeletal fluorosis in these patients was the osteomalacic variety of the disease, in which the bones become softened and weak.

As a result of the “fluoride-related osteomalacia”, the patients suffered “spontaneous bone fractures” where their bones fractured without external trauma.

Adding to the significance of this study are the relatively modest amounts of tea that the patients consumed, and the relatively low levels of fluoride found in their bloodstream. The patients consumed between 0.75 to 2 liters per day, and had an average of just 74 parts per billion (ppb) in their blood.

While the blood fluoride levels were measured two days after the patients’ last cup of tea (and thus do not reflect the peak fluoride levels), it is noteworthy that some individuals (particularly people with kidney disease, heart disease, osteoporosis, and combinations thereof) in fluoridated communities can have blood fluoride levels exceeding these levels.

When combining the results of this study, with the results of a similar study published earlier this year in the American Journal of Medicine (2), it is evident that the high fluoride content of many black and green teas is causing bone problems in some members of the population. Unfortunately, it is almost certain that those tea-drinkers suffering from fluoride-induced bone damage are not being correctly diagnosed.



More on fluoride, but now in relation with thyroid:

http://www.bruha.com/pfpc/html/green_tea___.html

It's a hyoooge article, ending with the conclusion that sounds a bit like scare mongering:


CONCLUSION:

As argued by Dean Burk and the attorneys who established the connection between cancer deaths and fluoridation, there is a premise in logic which states that the most obvious cause of an event must be taken as face value while one searches for alternative possibilities.

Because it can be documented that fluorides were given as medication for hyperthyroid patients it should be considered the OBVIOUS cause for hypothyroidism and other thyroid-hormone function-related disorders, including ADHD, arthritis, osteoporosis, etc., especially at intake levels as high as they are.

Fluoride poisoning can be observed in large groups of the population, in the form of hypothyroidism. In 1995 one publication (see 127) on hypothyroidism reported that 41 percent of women had fatigue for no obvious reason in the past year. Of these women, 57 percent said they experience fatigue three or more times a week. More than half of women (51 percent) had experienced three or more symptoms commonly associated with hypothyroidism over the past year.

Other symptoms/associations of hypothyroidism include loss of libido, carpal tunnel syndrome, arthritis, lupus, fibromyalgia, memory loss, etc. [For a more complete list, please see (74)]

Dental fluorosis is the first visible indicator that severe thyroid hormone dysfunction has occurred and is occurring. It is NOT a mere cosmetic effect as the dental profession would like us to believe. The evidence is staggering.

We must take immediate action to protect our children's mental and physical health from the ever-increasing fluoride intake. Water fluoridation must be halted, all foods must be labelled for F- content, and emissions by industry must be strictly regulated.

Overall fluoride intake must be radically reduced.

PLEASE advise responsibly regarding green tea.

Andreas Schuld
Parents of Fluoride Poisoned Children (PFPC)
Vancouver, B.C., Canada



So, it seems wise to keep drinking tea, but not go hog wild on it.. a couple of cups a day.