Organic....

[appleali]

How many of you get organic chicken and eggs. I am all about healthy all- natural, but just wondering if anyone else used it. But it would be soooo much easier and cheaper to get already cooked frozen chicken breast and liquid egg whites even canned and 'bagged-packets' chicken and tuna. Some say the canned food is soo bad for you too. I know I could get carried away and go crazy. I should stop thinking about.
I am just not sure if I will be harming my body with all the hormones and the things they say non-organic cause. And supposedly the food they give them is GMO 'genetically modified organisms' that creates a pestiside in the seed and therefore goes in your body when you eat them and can cause problems in the long run. Anyone else feel this way... Even the veggies we eat can be gmo if they're not organic. I can just go on an on but I won't... Just blabbing a bit and wondering whatcha all thought...:uhuh:

[Sarawithanh]

I eat organic when possible...but organic is really expensive. I get organic eggs in bulk at Costco but I also get the egg beaters stuff and the huge bags of Perdue chicken breasts :uhuh: my refeed and PWO carbs are usually organic... but i just get it when possible and try not to make myself crazie

[mcv]

I eat organic when possible...but organic is really expensive. I get organic eggs in bulk at Costco but I also get the egg beaters stuff and the huge bags of Perdue chicken breasts :uhuh: my refeed and PWO carbs are usually organic... but i just get it when possible and try not to make myself crazie
:yeahthat:
I do when I can. Chicken, eggs, and dairy products almost always. Veggies - it is about half and half. I have heard organic beef is MUCH better, but it is hard for me to find, and usually WAY more expensive.

[liberty]

I eat local eggs and poultry and beef. I know the farmers and they don't use any funky feed or hormones.
C

[appleali]

Ok I feel a bit better!:buddies: Yeah, I get my egg from my sisters chickens too, all organic fed, I just feel like I'm wasting the yolks and I don't like to waste. And those liquid egg white are soooo easy! Ok I won't worry so much anymore! :lol3:

[Jen]

I buy organic free range eggs (for using the whole egg), but regular for egg whites.
We eat organic beef but not so much chicken- far too $$ for the amount we go through between 2 of us in a week.
Fish- wild
90% of our fruits and vegetables I buy are organic, the rest local produce from small farmers.
Oats, brown rice, nut butters, milk- organic.

[Ana]

I eat mostly organic as well when possible. Unfortunately organic in north america does not mean it's not GMO. In England the food is labeled organic and or no GMO's for instance I get seedless organic grapes. There is no such thing unless they've been modified to be seedless. They just don't have pesticides. That's my understanding anyway

[appleali]

I am so happy to know your are all health consious in that way. I have read all Trader Joes food, even if not organic, is still non-gmo. Same of course at our expensive health food store.:shock: But it is good to know what you guys do.

[Inatic]

I dont eat anything organic. Feeding as many as we feed (min of 5/6), my food bill would triple! :shock:

[Audrey]

Unfortunately organic in north america does not mean it's not GMO.

Actually, foods that are organic cannot be GMO's. It doesn't mean that there may not be some accidental cross contamination, but it is not something organic farmers do on purpose.

[mich56]

Actually, foods that are organic cannot be GMO's. It doesn't mean that there may not be some accidental cross contamination, but it is not something organic farmers do on purpose.

:yeahthat:

[Audrey]

I buy organic free range eggs (for using the whole egg), but regular for egg whites.
We eat organic beef but not so much chicken- far too $$ for the amount we go through between 2 of us in a week.
Fish- wild
90% of our fruits and vegetables I buy are organic, the rest local produce from small farmers.
Oats, brown rice, nut butters, milk- organic.

Same here. I buy organic free-range eggs for whole eggs but regular eggs for egg whites as I do not think it matters as much for egg whites.

Almost all our fruit and veggies are organic as well, as is the peanut butter that we use.

I do not buy organic chicken as it would be way too expensive for the amount that my husband and I eat during the week (which is about 6-7lbs/week).

[Audrey]

Even the veggies we eat can be gmo if they're not organic.

You can actually tell by looking at the PLU code (which is the numeric code on the little sticky on the fruit and veggies that you buy) whether the fruit/veggies are organic, conventionally grown or GMO's: four digits are for conventionally grown, five digits beginning with 9 for organic, and five digits beginning with 8 for genetically modified. For example, conventionally grown bananas are 4011. Those that are grown organic have a 9 which appears in front of the 4011, and the genetically modified ones have an 8 before 4011 i.e., 94011 (organic) or 84011 (GMO's).

[appleali]

Wow Thanks Audrey! How did you find that out??? Sooooo good to know

[Aaron_F]

I don't buy organic, I don't search out GMO free anything.

I don't see a benefit from purchasing it that way

[homeschoolmom]

I dont eat anything organic. Feeding as many as we feed (min of 5/6), my food bill would triple! :shock:

:yeahthat:

I buy a few things that are organic like the kids' milk and PB since they consume vast quantities of them. Luckily, I can get them slightly cheaper at Costco. But other than that, with a family of 6, I just can't afford to buy organic!

[liberty]

:yeahthat:

I buy a few things that are organic like the kids' milk and PB since they consume vast quantities of them. Luckily, I can get them slightly cheaper at Costco. But other than that, with a family of 6, I just can't afford to buy organic!

Interesting tidbit..... people used to pay 30% of their income for their food and they now only pay 19% We have a skewed view of the cost of food. I feed 5 and healthy food is a large part of our monthly budget, tv cable, dinners out, pricey cars are not. (not saying this is you homeschoolmom just making a point)
C

[Aaron_F]

Interesting tidbit..... people used to pay 30% of their income for their food and they now only pay 19%


Using figures like this obscures any relationship of income to quality food purchasing.

wage figures of increased typically at, or at a greater rate, than inflalation, so the actual normal increases in food costs would be outdone by increases in income.

[Ko]

Our farmers market just started this past weekend, so we will be going pretty much all organic for the next few monthes.

Luckily we also have plenty of great orgainc farms nearby, so the cost is not as high as most areas.

I can also buy stuff at restaurant prices, which saves me money.

In the next year or two, we are going to grow more and more of our own produce. I am looking into getting chickens this year, and maybe a cow or two and a pig.

[Ana]

Actually, foods that are organic cannot be GMO's. It doesn't mean that there may not be some accidental cross contamination, but it is not something organic farmers do on purpose.

I stand corrected. I was misinformed, but this is good info to know. Of course now Audrey I'll be looking up all the plu's :lol3:

[cmberman1987]

I don't buy organic, I don't search out GMO free anything.

I don't see a benefit from purchasing it that way

:buddies:

Same. I'm pretty convinced that there is NO benefit to purchasing organic food over conventional food items.

Just my .02.

[appleali]

I love farmers markets,:love: ours won't start for a little while here in N.Y. I will be starting my garden soon. Not sure what to plant this year.:yum: I hope we have a good spring/summer for it. :unsure:

[Meadows]

One of my probs with organic is that people are paying a premium price and not always getting organic. Unless it is certified 100% organic you can't be sure and even then there are definate ways around the system. I work in the Animal Health industry and *organic* farms often appear as customers for products that are not organic. Often times the animals cannot be tested to show that hormones or other non-organic approved products weren't used. Buyer beware, you might not be getting what you pay for...

[Erik]

If anything, it’s more about potential contaminant risk than it is nutrient content. With a high fruit and vegetable recommendation,regardless of the type (organic vs inorganic), people will get enough micro/phyto nutrition. The potential problem, though, is the potential risk associated with pesticide contaminant, etc. with high consumption. (I use the word 'potential' to protect myself :lol:)

This site can help sort this out:

http://www.ewg.org

This is the page devoted to pesticides in fruits and veggies:

http://www.ewg.org/issues/siteindex/issues.php?issueid=5012

:shrug:

[3sweeties]

Has there ever been a study that compares the health of those who eat organic and those who do not? Some health magazine I was reading said studies have shown people who consume higher amounts of fruits and veggies were healthier, but seen no difference between the organic eaters and the non organice eaters. The big difference between people was the amount of fruits and veggies they ate. Of course I read this in a magazine.:shrug:

[Neely]

I live where tons of organic stuff is grown, and I still never buy it. By the time it makes it 30 miles from field to store, the price has been jacked up 500%.

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:

[Erik]

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[Erik]

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[Erik]

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[Erik]

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[Erik]

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[Erik]

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

[mich56]

I buy organic produce and meats to support local growers and for sustainability. It may be more expensive, yes, but it goes to the local farmer rather than the farmer that monocrops one product (which depletes the minerals in the soil, which directly affects the mineral content of the food) and the workers get miniscule pay...plus they are exposed to high amounts of pesticidies and herbicides. All that for the big profit of food production.

The care and love that goes into organic and biodynamic local farming is incredible. These people absolutely love what they do, and they barely survive doing it (meaning the pay).

We need to look at sustainability. When you purchase food from Japan, or some tropical place you have to think about how it got here. Plane, train, automobile...all that fuel that is being used to get food that you can get from the local farmers (or your own back yard). What would happen if we go to a LARGE scale World War...would we be able to get food from our own food supply??

Support local farmers, and even better get involved in a Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) group.

There is my two cents here.

[Neely]

You are one crazy chick. :shock:

Wow, you must really think so for you to say that 4 times. :lol3:

[Patricia]

I don't see the point.
The only thing I buy Organic is milk for my daughter because it lasts about 2-3x as long.

[Patricia]

I live where tons of organic stuff is grown, and I still never buy it. By the time it makes it 30 miles from field to store, the price has been jacked up 500%.

I walk on the wild side with pesticide. :devil:


:lol3:
:love:

:lol:

[3sweeties]

:popcorn:

[ashleyk]

I buy organic produce and meats to support local growers and for sustainability. It may be more expensive, yes, but it goes to the local farmer rather than the farmer that monocrops one product (which depletes the minerals in the soil, which directly affects the mineral content of the food) and the workers get miniscule pay...plus they are exposed to high amounts of pesticidies and herbicides. All that for the big profit of food production.

The care and love that goes into organic and biodynamic local farming is incredible. These people absolutely love what they do, and they barely survive doing it (meaning the pay).

We need to look at sustainability. When you purchase food from Japan, or some tropical place you have to think about how it got here. Plane, train, automobile...all that fuel that is being used to get food that you can get from the local farmers (or your own back yard). What would happen if we go to a LARGE scale World War...would we be able to get food from our own food supply??

Support local farmers, and even better get involved in a Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) group.

There is my two cents here.

Exactly. If you want to truly control what you are eating than buy it from someone you know. Find your local farmers and support practices that you support and believe in.

FARMERS FEED CITIES!

[Aaron_F]

The only thing I buy Organic is milk for my daughter because it lasts about 2-3x as long.


HTST pasteurized?

as there is nothing magic about organic milk that stops it going off

[ReneeG]

I agree that supporting local is uber important whether you give into the whole 'organic' thing or not.
And yes, for some reason, the organic milk lasts forever! :shrug:
Strangest thing.

[Aaron_F]

strange, organic milk here lasts the same length of time as normal milk..

must be american magic

[Patricia]

HTST pasteurized?

as there is nothing magic about organic milk that stops it going off
lol...
I mean, when I by reg milk it usually has en exp. date about 2 weeks away...when I buy organic it has an exp. date literally like 6 weeks away.
:shrug:

[Aaron_F]

must be HTST pasteurized rather than standard