Straighten me out. . .

[happygirl]

If one is eating a restricted calorie diet, is it better that the calories come from lean protien or does it matter at all? I mean, if the calories are what you are focusing on, is it more like "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie"?

[Blondell]

Get your protein, get your fish oils and have fun w/ the rest. :lol3:

[chelleashley]

Get your protein, get your fish oils and have fun w/ the rest. :lol3:
LOVE the new avi!! :)

[happygirl]

Get your protein, get your fish oils and have fun w/ the rest. :lol3:
:bunny: NICE BACK! WHOOOOT!!!:lifter:

[Blondell]

LOVE the new avi!! :)

Not exactly new, but thanks. :D

Hopefully, there's a bit more mass back there now. :lol:

[Ali]

I think it goes something like this. A calorie is a calorie...so if you are trying to lose "weight"...then it doesn't matter WHERE your calories are coming from.

But we are all trying to lose fat and preserve muscle. And muscle needs protein. So you need to keep the protein up...and make sure you are lifting heavy.

I think if you hit the minimum protein and fat requirements...the rest doesn't matter so much.

[donnajo]

I think it goes something like this. A calorie is a calorie...so if you are trying to lose "weight"...then it doesn't matter WHERE your calories are coming from.

But we are all trying to lose fat and preserve muscle. And muscle needs protein. So you need to keep the protein up...and make sure you are lifting heavy.

I think if you hit the minimum protein and fat requirements...the rest doesn't matter so much.

Well if that is true I want my carbs back.:mecry:

[radgirl]

Well if that is true I want my carbs back.:mecry:
You get some carbs, right?

[Ali]

Well if that is true I want my carbs back.:mecry:


Ya, but going lower calorie...it doesn't leave a lot of room. And you still need to have some sort of nutrition. And eating lots of carbs sometimes makes people binge or hungrier. And if you are IR..you are going to want to be lower carb.

I can't answer this stuff. We need Thundy.

[Erik]

Get your protein, get your fish oils and have fun w/ the rest. :lol3:

Not quite.

[Ana]

Well if that is true I want my carbs back.:mecry:

Why? you're trying to change your body composition and to achieve a lean look and preserve your muscle you're better to eat your required protein and fat, and be selective of your carbs, just MHO

[donnajo]

Oh, I know.Ali and Ana you are right. I am just being a big baby. I have talked to Erik and with my thyroid issues and being IR it is for the best.

But I can still whine that I miss them though.:mecry: My kingdom for pasta. I am Italian. My grandmother is rolling over in her grave at the thought of me not having pasta.:lol3: In some countries this would be viewed as unnecessary torture. But I am tough. I can withstand such extreme measures to get to my goal. I just might drive everyone else nuts while I am doing it.:hehe:

[radgirl]

Oh, I know.Ali and Ana you are right. I am just being a big baby. I have talked to Erik and with my thyroid issues and being IR it is for the best.

But I can still whine that I miss them though.:mecry: My kingdom for pasta. I am Italian. My grandmother is rolling over in her grave at the thought of me not having pasta.:lol3: In some countries this would be viewed as unnecessary torture. But I am tough. I can withstand such extreme measures to get to my goal. I just might drive everyone else nuts while I am doing it.:hehe:
Donna, how did you come to find out you were IR?

[donnajo]

Donna, how did you come to find out you were IR?


I guess it just seems that I do better on lower carb, I don't know if I am actually IR.Using the term loosely. That is where Erik has me headed right now in consideration of my thyroid issues and I guess how my progress is going. Plus, I am wanting to compete. If I was not competing I guess I would take this process more slowly but I need to try to be ready by August.He is the one in charge and knows what he is doing.So I am trusting in that.

[radgirl]

I guess it just seems that I do better on lower carb, I don't know if I am actually IR.Using the term loosely. That is where Erik has me headed right now in consideration of my thyroid issues and I guess how my progress is going. Plus, I am wanting to compete. If I was not competing I guess I would take this process more slowly but I need to try to be ready by August.He is the one in charge and knows what he is doing.So I am trusting in that.
Are you hypoT as well? Are you on meds?

[donnajo]

Are you hypoT as well? Are you on meds?


I have a hypothyroid. I was without insurance for a while and decided I did not need my synthroid anymore. Well , big mistake. I actually got used to being tired and just plug right through it. Well, I wound up in my doctors office sick and he yelled at me for stopping it. We just took some blood tests and are getting me back on meds soon.

[Ana]

What's IR?
ETA forget it is it insulin resistant?

[donnajo]

What's IR?
ETA forget it is it insulin resistant?


Yeah, but after reading the article in the thread about it radgirl put up I think it is being misused. Or I am misusing it. Hmmm. :confused: I guess I should be using good or poor carb tolerance rather than IR, or is there a difference?


Erik, can you come in here and explain all of this to us exactly? If you get your protiens and EFA's in what is the reasoning for deciding how much carbs or not? Or is this more complicated and depending on the individual to generalize?

[radgirl]

I have a hypothyroid. I was without insurance for a while and decided I did not need my synthroid anymore. Well , big mistake. I actually got used to being tired and just plug right through it. Well, I wound up in my doctors office sick and he yelled at me for stopping it. We just took some blood tests and are getting me back on meds soon.
Aww hon. So sorry to hear that. :hug: I won't get started on the whole health insurance thing. Whatever the case, glad you will be getting on meds very soon. I know what you mean by getting used to being tired and just going through the day. It's like you are on auto-pilot and just keep on keeping on, till you can't do it anymore.

[happygirl]

I think it goes something like this. A calorie is a calorie...so if you are trying to lose "weight"...then it doesn't matter WHERE your calories are coming from.

But we are all trying to lose fat and preserve muscle. And muscle needs protein. So you need to keep the protein up...and make sure you are lifting heavy.

I think if you hit the minimum protein and fat requirements...the rest doesn't matter so much.

YES! That is the answer I was looking for. Crap. I'm so innarticulate these days. I don't know what's gotten into me. I actually read AND understood your answer. YAY! I must be getting better. I have suffered from some kind of temporary (I HOPE!) retardation for a few days. LOL.

So, if I'm low cal, I'm keeping my protein up and I will lift heavy. The simple answer this simpleton-gal needed! THANKS!

[donnajo]

Aww hon. So sorry to hear that. :hug: I won't get started on the whole health insurance thing. Whatever the case, glad you will be getting on meds very soon. I know what you mean by getting used to being tired and just going through the day. It's like you are on auto-pilot and just keep on keeping on, till you can't do it anymore.

I have insurance now but it still sucks. They actually did not want to pay for my daughters doctor visits for ear infections because they said they are pre-existing.:eh: I had to have the pediatrician call to tell them that is not so and to pay. It is amazing how much money we pay them and how much they refuse to pay out.:shrug: :grumble:

[happygirl]

Insurance is such a damn scam!

[Blondell]

Not quite.You're right!! I forgot to add: Take lots of stimulants! :thumb: :lol:


I know there's more to it, but I guess I'm so used to eating healthy foods that it comes as second nature to choose good foods. I'll admit that that wasn't such good advice for someone starting out, but it is the route that I use.

[happygirl]

You're right!! I forgot to add: Take lots of stimulants! :thumb: :lol:


:uhuh: I got that part COVERED. :lol3: