Lactose Intolerant

[fitstylist5]

Being lactose intolerant and having read a lot of literature rejecting the benefit of dairy in the human diet, does anyone have suggestions for protein supplements that are most effectively absorbed and dairy-free? Egg, soy etc?

[abbatoir]

Most protein powders I can handle, and I'm severely lactose intolerant.

[Aaron_F]

if you are getting symptoms associated with lactose intolerance from whey protien isolate, and more generically whey protein concentrate taken at moderate/low doseage.

Its not the lactose.

[Espi]

Cow's milk allergy is NOT the same as lactose intolerance.
You can have plenty dairy with lactose intolerance, as long as there's no lactose in it. You can't have cow's dairy with an allergy, but mostly will be fine with goat's milk (or camel or ... ) even when it contains lactose.

[Aaron_F]

except for the people who are not fine with goats milk... too many similarities between the two :)

[fitstylist5]

Anyone read the book The Crazy Makers? Perhaps my initial post was too vague.
That fact is that cow's milk is meant for a baby calf, not humans. The protein/fatty acid ratio in cow's milk fits the developmental needs of that calf perfectly. It gains hundreds of pounds in months off of that milk. What about humans? We need a decidedly different protein/fatty acid blend. My question should have been this: which protein supplement best meets our protein needs?

[radgirl]

if you are getting symptoms associated with lactose intolerance from whey protien isolate, and more generically whey protein concentrate taken at moderate/low doseage.

Its not the lactose.
I can 2nd this comment. I thought my issues were lactose as well, they are not. They are specific to cow's milk protein (not sure about goat - haven't tried it yet, to afraid). I would take lactase enzyme pills before any dairy and it would have little to no effect on what I was consuming. Doesn't matter what the dairy form is, I react to it in some way, especially whey protein which is in a lot of items.

[radgirl]

except for the people who are not fine with goats milk... too many similarities between the two :)
That's why I'm too chicken to try the goats milk and from Aaron's statement, I will stay away. :) I'd rather be safe than sorry.

[Aaron_F]

Anyone read the book The Crazy Makers? Perhaps my initial post was too vague.
That fact is that cow's milk is meant for a baby calf, not humans. The protein/fatty acid ratio in cow's milk fits the developmental needs of that calf perfectly.

For all of the arguements against dairy, this is the most stupid one put forward.

What makes any food 'meant' for humans?

[Espi]

except for the people who are not fine with goats milk... too many similarities between the two :)


There's very specific allergies where you are only allergic to e.g. cow's dairy but can have goat's dairy. Or you can have oatmeal, but not wheat (gluten)
And then there's others whose bodies are more sloppy and don't discern between the two types of milk, nor between the very similar gluten-like proteins in oats.

Seems that I'm one of those. I'm not having specific allergies against anything in particular but am 'sensitive' for a lot of stuff.. which sux royally as well, esp. since you spend almost a lifetime finding out what are the triggers. :tantrum: :mecry:
Didn't want to overcomplicate stuff.

ETA , didn't read radgirl's comment. Yeah, I tried goat's milk, which didn't go well. Goat cheese = ??? but I'm stalling in weight loss. Apparently allergens slow down T4 conversion into T3 (the active thyroid hormone). Since I'm still cutting I've cut out all possible allergenic foods (hoping/praying our cat , pollen and dust bunnies aren't factors as well)

Agreeing with Aaron that it's a dumb argument for not drinking milk. Perhaps we developed to become who we are just BECAUSE we can handle fats better! At least it was mostly because our forefathers clubbed animals to death and were able to break up the bones to get to the marrowfats (omega3s!) . Fatty milk from grassfed animals is another good source of omega3s.

[straitshooter]

I would try Vyotech's ORXY Goat Whey....I use it and have no problems whatsoever. It's fantastic.

[radgirl]

I would try Vyotech's ORXY Goat Whey....I use it and have no problems whatsoever. It's fantastic.
Strait, are you lactose intolerant or just allergic to dairy?

In regards to the whole dairy discussion. I don't care if it's meant for baby cows. I would give my left toe to have my dairy back in my daily food regiment. I miss CC, milk, yogurt, milk chocolate, and everything else that is dairy. My life is complicated enough with the damn wheat/gluten and is only being further complicated with no dairy. It sucks huge donkey nuts and I'm tired of all my damn allergies/intolerances/sensitivities - whatever the hell you want to call them. :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum: Sorry about my rant. I'm just frustrated as hell that I can't eat like a normal person and my food has to be "special". It's a sad day in one's life when they are terrified of the food they eat. Ok, off my rant now, sorry. :oops:

[mich56]

A good alternative is Rice Protein. I buy NutriBiotic brand. Bland as hell, so I add some stevia to sweeten it up a bit.

[radgirl]

A good alternative is Rice Protein. I buy NutriBiotic brand. Bland as hell, so I add some stevia to sweeten it up a bit.
That's what I use. I just wish it didn't cost an arm and a leg. :(

[Aaron_F]

There's very specific allergies where you are only allergic to e.g. cow's dairy but can have goat's dairy. Or you can have oatmeal, but not wheat (gluten)

Gluten is not a true allergy.

But the proteins from bovine and caprine can provide identical antigens, becuase of the massive similarity in the structure of the proteins.

[Espi]

Yeah, yeah.. true allergy for gluten is very rare. It's all intolerance.
But Radgirl is right.. I want my foods back :tantrum: :tantrum: :tantrum: