The Worst Nutritional Advice

[Noel Clark]

This goes along with the thread that Erik posted about Training. What is the worst nutritional advice that you have gotten?

[cejk]

This is soo bad- the main guy at our gym posted this big ole thing on the door about" loosing"- yeah you read it right thats how he spelled "losing" weight!
He had all kinds of crazy stuff on there- but the one that pushed me so far over the edge that I actually took it down, wrote "where the hell did you get this crap" and put it right back up was this:
"To maintain your current weight- take your bodyweight x10, and whatever that comes to then subtract 500 from that!:eh:

needless to say the next week all of these papers that were taped everywhere were taken down.... friggin pathetic.

[MichelleS]

This is soo bad- the main guy at our gym posted this big ole thing on the door about" loosing"- yeah you read it right thats how he spelled "losing" weight!
He had all kinds of crazy stuff on there- but the one that pushed me so far over the edge that I actually took it down, wrote "where the hell did you get this crap" and put it right back up was this:
"To maintain your current weight- take your bodyweight x10, and whatever that comes to then subtract 500 from that!:eh:
needless to say the next week all of these papers that were taped everywhere were taken down.... friggin pathetic.
that means i can only have 1000 cals a day to stay at my weight :eh:

[Noel Clark]

Nothing compares to the "advice" i was given for my first show which lead me to beg Erik to help me out at the last minute...

1 week out: Eat Salmon at least 6 times a day. Adding Safflower oil and start cutting water at a week out :thumb: Good stuff huh?

[Blondell]

that means i can only have 1000 cals a day to stay at my weight :eh:
I get 1200 :p :funny:

[MichelleS]

I get 1200 :p :funny:
:ban:

[MichelleS]

Nothing compares to the "advice" i was given for my first show which lead me to beg Erik to help me out at the last minute...

1 week out: Eat Salmon at least 6 times a day. Adding Safflower oil and start cutting water at a week out :thumb: Good stuff huh?
i got something like you should cut you water to one liter for the final week and be taking dandalion root tea everyday at 14 days out.

[smuggie]

that means i can only have 1000 cals a day to stay at my weight :eh:
Lucky you. I can only have 850.

[smuggie]

I get 1200 :p :funny:
I'd get fat on that.

[MichelleS]

Lucky you. I can only have 850.
thats why i'm happy to be tall can you imagane how hungry someone like Ali at comp weight would get to eat 550 Ouch!

[smuggie]

thats why i'm happy to be tall can you imagane how hungry someone like Ali at comp weight would get to eat 550 Ouch!
Yeah, our metabolisms would get effed up on 550 cals a day.

[MichelleS]

Yeah, our metabolisms would get effed up on 550 cals a day.
no joke one mcdonalds meal has more then that.

[Blondell]

no joke one mcdonalds burger has more then that.
fixed that :thumb: :lol3:

[MichelleS]

fixed that :thumb: :lol3:
:muahaha: it depends on what you get. :happy05:


but very true. :piggie:

[shelle]

Worst advice I got was from my last trainer who is also an IFBB pro figure competitor.

I was allowed 850-900 calories per day at 9 weeks out from a show. I could eat white fish, 1/4 - 1/2 cup of oatmeal depending on the day and 2 cups of veggies. I was also "allowed" egg whites. Read: basically no fat. At this point my hair was falling out and i was going #2 once every 6-7 days!!!

My supplements were all at least 3X the recommended dosage and I was expected to weight train every day plus do 2 hours and 10 minutes of cardio a day. She kept increasing it and when I told her that was the max i could fit in my day plus still work 2 jobs, she got frustrated with me.

The final 2 weeks before the show I was nowhere near shape to get on stage. She wanted me to do back to back water depletes of a week each and do between 2 and 4 hours of cardio a day. She suggested I take time off work to do cardio!!! When things weren't working, she pushed prescription diuretics. That's when i quit, walked away and found Erik.

[Erik]

She wanted me to do back to back water depletes of a week each and do between 2 and 4 hours of cardio a day. She suggested I take time off work to do cardio!!

What a horrible experience.

But the bolded part made me burst out laughing.

[jackieleigh]

So BW x 10- 500 to maintain eh? I get about 550 calories....guess I need to stop eating to lose weight

[shelle]

No laughing Erik, she was DAMN serious! She was actually mad at me and made a scene in the studio in front of other trainers about if I wanted to be a figure competitor I needed to act like one, etc. OMG.

And yet, people will continue to go to her. I'm sad for all the other girls doing 2+ hours of cardio a day to get on stage... :muahaha:

Oh and I should add, she kept telling me she wanted me to be healthy and that she was taking the previous cancer into consideration. Um, yup, no blue berries, no good fats to speak of, not much leafy greens in my diet... and this was a no-cancer healthy diet? She didn't do much research, that's for sure.

Sorry, I'm seriously worked up again, LOL. :catfight:

[Neely]

Zero fats for the entire duratioon of contest prep :sad:

Sodium loading for 5 days at about 9 days out(at a range of something stupid like 15000mg/day) then cutting all sodium at 4 days out (including boiling chicken in distilled water to remove sodium) and starting to cut water at 3 days out. :sad:

I'm sure I'll think of more....

[smuggie]

Shelle, Wow. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v614/montagnu/confused%20and%20thinking%20smilies/brunetteblink.gif I'm really glad you walked away from her.

[shelle]

... not soon enough. I totally bought into the "dream". Everything I had done wasn't working so I figured she must know what she's doing, right?

Ugh, live and learn. Then hire Erik :)

[smuggie]

Going through an experience like that makes you appreciate Erik even more.

[Fitwolf]

My Dad the insulin dependant diabetic is convinced 60% (yes, he uses percentages) of his calories must be carbs.

it's frustrating having conversations about food with him.

[smuggie]

And where did he come up with this?

[Fitwolf]

I think he's basing it on nutritional books that are written for endurance athletes - marathoners, cyclists, etc. One of his favorite nutrition writers is Nancy Clark... but he doesn't exercise nearly as much as the people she is writing for. He's more in the 30minutes moderate cardio 3x week camp.

The exercise is good... it makes his body need less insulin. I just don't buy all the carbs...

[gymgurl]

I was told that cheeries are the best cereal to eat because their shape makes it easier for the stomach to absorb. Smile and nod....

[Aaron_F]

Most national diabetes bodies around the world recommend somewhere around 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates.

Nothing wrong with it

[Noel Clark]

Worst advice I got was from my last trainer who is also an IFBB pro figure competitor.

I was allowed 850-900 calories per day at 9 weeks out from a show. I could eat white fish, 1/4 - 1/2 cup of oatmeal depending on the day and 2 cups of veggies. I was also "allowed" egg whites. Read: basically no fat. At this point my hair was falling out and i was going #2 once every 6-7 days!!!

My supplements were all at least 3X the recommended dosage and I was expected to weight train every day plus do 2 hours and 10 minutes of cardio a day. She kept increasing it and when I told her that was the max i could fit in my day plus still work 2 jobs, she got frustrated with me.

The final 2 weeks before the show I was nowhere near shape to get on stage. She wanted me to do back to back water depletes of a week each and do between 2 and 4 hours of cardio a day. She suggested I take time off work to do cardio!!! When things weren't working, she pushed prescription diuretics. That's when i quit, walked away and found Erik.
:blink:

this is unbelievable...wow

[Mercyfit]

don't drink water 1 hour before and 2 hours after eating, apparently it messes up your natural digestion. :blink: I was told this the other day..

[magdalynaa]

Shelle... OMG. :eh:

Some random stuff I've heard over the years...

*Drinking water with lemon somehow cures cancer. I think this came out of that "Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About" book that was very popular last year. I forget the exact name of the book, but it includes gems like this as well as dire instructions against wearing deodorant.

*The Cabbage Soup diet. The Tuna Diet. The Grapefruit Diet. (enough said)

*Avocados are bad for you. I still hear this all the time. I don't really know what qualifies this statement; I think people understand that avocados have fat in them, which therefore makes them terrible for you. :huh:

*Eating eggs will give you heart disease. I think this is an old idea that is slowly being replaced, but I still run into a lot of people who think I'm going to drop dead from heart failure if I eat a whole egg.

[Fitwolf]

Most national diabetes bodies around the world recommend somewhere around 50-60% of calories from carbohydrates.

Nothing wrong with it


Aaron, can you explain this to me? Here's my thinking:

the more carbs he eats, the more insulin he has to inject. With the vairability in how his body responds to insulin based on mood, exercise... etc, it seems to me that the less carbs (and therefore insulin) he eats/ injects the better. Obviously, he would have to eat some carbs... but why is such a high percentage reccomended?

[Aaron_F]

dibaetics have to learn how they respond to multiple things, including food intake. The dietary recommendations may be for reasonably higher percentage of energy from carbohydrates, but typically these are high fibre, low energy foods, like recommended for anyone, with in the context of a calorically controlled program, the amount is only going gto be 200-300g total

Consistency of food intake is important. So eating 400g one day then 800 the next will screw things up

[Fitwolf]

so my less carbs/less insulin theory is worthless?

I do think he eats good carbs - lots of brown rice and oatmeal.

ALthough I think the oatmeal recently was making acid reflux worse?

[Aaron_F]

It will work to an extent

but diabetics need to inject insulin regardless, and if you inject insulin, you need to put in carbs...

[Ana]

Lucky you. I can only have 850.
I can only have 500 :eek:

[pep]

I think I've experienced some bad nutritional advice!! How about my entire contest prep!! :eh: 6 fish oil capsules a day is enough fat, right? And a 1/2 c. white rice for carbs - when you're doing 2 hours of cardio and 45 minutes of weight training? That's outright generous! And my high carb days were 2/3 c. rice! Over-the-top! :wink:

[magdalynaa]

Breaking diet news from my coworker!!

(something to the extent of....)

"There's this new diet going around where you eat 3 meal-replacement shakes a day, a cup of vegetables, and a Lean Cuisine dinner for your last meal. You walk 45 minutes a day. The people doing this diet are losing 10 pounds per week!"

[smuggie]

I can only have 500 :eek:
Pig!! :piggie:

[FloridaBlueEyes]

Some "advice" I just received recently...

"I can't believe you eat right before you go to bed! If you eat anything after 7PM at night, it will instantly turn to fat as you sleep. It's just not healthy for you to eat that late at night. That's what Oprah does anyway, and she lost tons of weight!" The person who said this to me was eating an enourmous fried seafood platter at the time. :blink:

[magdalynaa]

"I can't believe you eat right before you go to bed! If you eat anything after 7PM at night, it will instantly turn to fat as you sleep.

This one always cracks me up.

[Lori52463]

don't drink water 1 hour before and 2 hours after eating, apparently it messes up your natural digestion. :blink: I was told this the other day..

I've been told this too and you're not supposed to drink water with your meals either. Huh?

[Neely]

How about: only drink your water room temp or hotter 'cause the body can't process it amy colder than that.

Gee, all these years of chilling my water were a waste :rolleyes:

[smuggie]

Sheesh. What kind of idiot chills her water? :grin:

[Neely]

Sheesh. What kind of idiot chills her water? :grin:

That's why I'm doing The Hot Diet now!!111 How could I have ever thought that ice was GOOD?? :dope:

One reviewer of the Hot Diet book says:


I enjoyed reading the book. An excellent overall review of various aspects of issues that impact weight control. As for no ice, this is the first book addressing the temperature of our drinks and its impact on weight control. There are magazine articles that agree with the author's claim. well worth further exploration. Reduction of ice consumption fits with our drive for being environmentally friendly and saving energy too.

:lol3:

Gotta trust something that agrees with a magazine article, right? :rolleyes:

[Patricia]

Let's see......
Worst ever was from a FAT man. No kidding.....


Never, EVER drink water with a meal! Food should only be eaten by itself to properly be burned off as fuel.

:lol3:

[Patricia]

I've been told this too and you're not supposed to drink water with your meals either. Huh?
Missed this.
Yep..where did this notion come from? :uhuh:

[smuggie]

That's why I'm doing The Hot Diet now!!111 How could I have ever thought that ice was GOOD?? :dope:

One reviewer of the Hot Diet book says:



:lol3:

Gotta trust something that agrees with a magazine article, right? :rolleyes:
Fo sho. :rolleyes:

[magdalynaa]

Missed this.
Yep..where did this notion come from? :uhuh:
I think I was told that drinking water with your meals "dilutes the body's natural digestive enzymes" so that your food goes undigested, you never absorb any vitamins or minerals, and you end up having all kinds of rotten food backed up in your intestines and ... err... whatever. :eh:

[Gary]

I think I was told that drinking water with your meals "dilutes the body's natural digestive enzymes" so that your food goes undigested, you never absorb any vitamins or minerals, and you end up having all kinds of rotten food backed up in your intestines and ... err... whatever. :eh:
No worries, a high-colonic will clear that right up.

[smuggie]

I think I was told that drinking water with your meals "dilutes the body's natural digestive enzymes" so that your food goes undigested, you never absorb any vitamins or minerals, and you end up having all kinds of rotten food backed up in your intestines and ... err... whatever. :eh:
I've heard that too.

[smuggie]

No worries, a high-colonic will clear that right up.
And you know this from personal experience? :lol3:

[chelleashley]

eat one meal a day, it'll shrink your stomach

[MichelleS]

eat one meal a day, it'll shrink your stomach
i guess you can't be hungry if your dead

[Blondell]

Let's see......
Worst ever was from a FAT man. No kidding.....


Never, EVER drink water with a meal! Food should only be eaten by itself to properly be burned off as fuel.

:lol3:
I heard this one when I was a little girl! :lol:

[Anca]

I heard this one when I was a little girl! :lol:

Blondell, you're killing me with that avi!!!! Is there a brownie under there too? Chocolate, icecream and nuts. Heaven!!
Sept. 23 I get some too!!!
:party2: :cheat:

[Blondell]

Blondell, you're killing me with that avi!!!! Is there a brownie under there too? Chocolate, icecream and nuts. Heaven!!
Sept. 23 I get some too!!!
:party2: :cheat:
I don't know, but I'm on my way out to get some stuff to make this and brownies are officially on my list! :muahaha:

[Patricia]

I don't know, but I'm on my way out to get some stuff to make this and brownies are officially on my list! :muahaha:
You are single handedly going to sabatoge all of our diets. :muahaha:

[lchristine100]

This isn't really advice, but one of my co-workers had seen me drinking a protein shake (I have one of those GNC mixer things so he could tell what I was drinking), anyway he said is that protein? I said yes. He said why? I said it's one of my meals. And he said "keep that up and you'll be as big as me".

That is so annoying

[wanttobefit]

How about no advice from your trainer. Just come in every morning and lift. Never ask what/how much I am eating. But ask me every day if I am losing weight.:eh:

[celine]

hi :wave: guys we had a incident on the news a couple of weeks ago.. one of our radio station was having a water drinking contest to see how much you could drink in so many hrs anyway 1 of the conditions was you couldn't pee ..the lady that came 2nd place was a mother of 2or 3 kids DIED ... yep she died she drowned and guess what the prize was a play station game for her kids ...i think she consumed like 10-11lts in 3hrs or something like that...she started geting headaches by the time she got to the hospital she was gone how sad is that

[magdalynaa]

This isn't really advice, but one of my co-workers had seen me drinking a protein shake (I have one of those GNC mixer things so he could tell what I was drinking), anyway he said is that protein? I said yes. He said why? I said it's one of my meals. And he said "keep that up and you'll be as big as me".

Yes, because it's been well-documented that consuming protein makes muscles triple in size instantaneously. :rolleyes:

What an ass.

[Audrey]

Eating dairy products during contest prep will make your skin 'thick'.

You should cut fruit out of your diet as your show approaches as it has too much sugar in it.

[Neely]

Eating dairy products during contest prep will make your skin 'thick'.

You should cut fruit out of your diet as your show approaches as it has too much sugar in it.

I've been told no fruit during the entire prep :sad:

[momof4]

hi :wave: guys we had a incident on the news a couple of weeks ago.. one of our radio station was having a water drinking contest to see how much you could drink in so many hrs anyway 1 of the conditions was you couldn't pee ..the lady that came 2nd place was a mother of 2or 3 kids DIED ... yep she died she drowned and guess what the prize was a play station game for her kids ...i think she consumed like 10-11lts in 3hrs or something like that...she started geting headaches by the time she got to the hospital she was gone how sad is that

I remember hearing about this. She didn't drown, she died from hyperhydration (it's also called hyponatremia, water intoxication or water poisoning). This is actually getting to be a problem with some marathoners and triathletes. The "back of packers" that are told to drink so much water per 15 minutes of exercise but don't replenish with electrolite drinks. There have been a few deaths and some hospitilizations, mostly women who are walking. I know Runners World ran an article about this a few years ago.

[JGWright]

Fruit will give you a fatty liver due to the fructose in it.

[Tralfazz]

One of the ones I hear too often is don't use protein drinks because your kidneys aren't meant to handle that much at one time and it will destroy them.

[Ruby]

Heard that one too. Also, aren't protein drinks only for muscle building and not dieting? I get that a lot.

[BSNJunkie]

Eating dairy products during contest prep will make your skin 'thick'.



:yeahthat:

i :love: my CC

[Tralfazz]

I heard another last night at the gym from one of the "Trainers". He said "You should always exercise on an empty stomach because you can push yourself harder without feeling like you're going to throw up."

[Sarah]

I heard another last night at the gym from one of the "Trainers". He said "You should always exercise on an empty stomach because you can push yourself harder without feeling like you're going to throw up."
ummm. maybe one shouldn't :treadmill: right after a 5 course meal...

[trinitylove]

don't eat carbs and fat together for breakfast....
:icanthearyou:

[strongchick]

don't eat carbs and fat together for breakfast....
:icanthearyou:

There goes my oatmeal and pb.

[trinitylove]

There goes my oatmeal and pb.
ha ha! mine too!