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Has anyone ever used/tried this stuff?
I decided I'd try using creatine again and decided to give this stuff a shot. Holy freaking :blink: and :sick:
This stuff is absolutely the most disgusting stuff I have ever had. It's all I can do to not spit it out as soon as I get it in my mouth. And then not throw up after I get it down.
Are they all like this? If they are, I need to figure out how to mask the flavour somehow.
:wth:
Blondell
10-12-2007, 02:39 AM
Tasted H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E.
I bought mine from 1fast400.
Noel Clark
10-12-2007, 02:39 AM
:baby:
I told you
Tasted H.O.R.R.I.B.L.E.
I bought mine from 1fast400.
That's being nice. Seriously this stuff is ridiculous.
Blondell
10-12-2007, 02:40 AM
It's still sitting in my cabinet. There was no way I could bear it. Gag reflex.
what exactly is it supposed to do?
Blondell
10-12-2007, 02:41 AM
what exactly is it supposed to do?
The same as mono w/o the bloat....at least for me.
Noel Clark
10-12-2007, 02:41 AM
you guys are a bunch of whimps..you shoot it! man, a bunch :baby: in here
:funny:
Blondell
10-12-2007, 02:43 AM
you guys are a bunch of whimps..you shoot it! man, a bunch :baby: in here
Says the lady who's afraid of jeans. :sad:
Noel Clark
10-12-2007, 02:43 AM
Says the lady who's afraid of jeans. :sad:
:ecw:
I can shoot some of that stuff but starting fires with my inner thighs makes me :faint:
Blondell
10-12-2007, 02:44 AM
:ecw:
I can shoot some of that stuff but starting fires with my inner thighs makes me :faint:
I'm not sure the fire b/w the legs is ever a good thing. :unsure: :lol:
Noel Clark
10-12-2007, 02:45 AM
I'm not sure the fire b/w the legs is ever a good thing. :unsure: :lol:
lol yeah reading that back...sounded different then when i said it in my head :funny:
I am talking about my hugantic legs-just to clarify for you potty minds.
SusanF
10-12-2007, 02:55 AM
Has anyone ever used/tried this stuff?
I decided I'd try using creatine again and decided to give this stuff a shot. Holy freaking :blink: and :sick:
This stuff is absolutely the most disgusting stuff I have ever had. It's all I can do to not spit it out as soon as I get it in my mouth. And then not throw up after I get it down.
Are they all like this? If they are, I need to figure out how to mask the flavour somehow.
:wth:
Try CM2 Alpha by SAN. It's creatine-ethyl-ester-HCI enhanced with beta-alanine & Di-L-Arginine-L-Malate
They're caplets and don't taste like anything.
I have a whole pound of this crap.
The same as mono w/o the bloat....at least for me.
Ok in case you forgot- Im a formerf fattie who throws around a little weights now and then... what is mono???
Creatine Monohydrate - the original and most researched creatine product.
SusanF
10-12-2007, 03:00 AM
I have a whole pound of this crap.
Can't you take it back? I've returned stuff I couldn't stomach - they just send it back to the manufacturer.
Can't you take it back? I've returned stuff I couldn't stomach - they just send it back to the manufacturer.
Nah, I'll tough it out. :lol:
Noel takes the same one ... I can't wimp out.
Noel Clark
10-12-2007, 03:01 AM
Nah, I'll tough it out. :lol:
Noel takes the same one ... I can't wimp out.
:lol:
Citruscide
10-12-2007, 04:08 AM
I've used a kre-alkaline before - a higher PH, usually in a capsule form and you only need it on days you train. Worked well for me when I used it.
Do you take it just in water? And when? Are you "loading"?
Inatic
10-12-2007, 10:58 AM
how about getting those gelatin capsules that are empty and put it in there.
OR try swishin it down with the universal BCCA's . That stuff tastes like pixie sticks!
Im going to try it when i got to maintaince.
I've been selling CEE for about 2 years. First in tablets but we had a problem with these as there was betaine added which helps with digestion but made tehm fall apart.
Our new product will be in capsules and there's sodiumcreatinine phosphate added.
For the real cheapskates there will be some dirt cheap (asstasting) CEE-powder on sale as a combo with our lowGI sportsdrink powder IsoDex.
I can't really say much about CEE. Those who buy it from us, adore it as it really works well.Slowly but steadily demand is increasing.
I've used it a few times but seem to be a non-responder.
Now, citrulline malate (formerly in a powder, now as tablets as in Stamina) is something entirely different. Or sulbutiamine (Fortega): wow!
Mix it with your Greens. That will kill the taste of anything.
Meadows
10-12-2007, 07:40 PM
or pinch your nose so you don't taste it.
always worked for me with brussel sprouts
Blondell
10-12-2007, 07:50 PM
NOTHING kills that taste of mine.
Cindy Day
10-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Wusses.
:lol:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Wusses.
:lol:Have you ever had it, Cin? I can handle the taste of most supps. In fact, I chew a few of my pills :oops: But that taste is in a field of it's own. :lol:
or pinch your nose so you don't taste it.
always worked for me with brussel sprouts
I wish this worked for this crap.
Cindy Day
10-13-2007, 07:31 PM
Have you ever had it, Cin? I can handle the taste of most supps. In fact, I chew a few of my pills :oops: But that taste is in a field of it's own. :lol:
No, not this one I haven't. I was trying unsucessfully to get a reaction from Thundar. :angel4:
MichelleS
10-13-2007, 08:43 PM
Can't you take it back? I've returned stuff I couldn't stomach - they just send it back to the manufacturer.
:funny: we(GNC) have never sent anything back to the manufacturers unless thats my house.
MichelleS
10-13-2007, 08:45 PM
and the oly ester i have tried was so nasty that i spit it out. I can only do the mono.
Blondell
10-13-2007, 08:46 PM
I just don't like the bloat that comes w/ the mono for me. I can find better things to bloat on. :lol:
MichelleS
10-13-2007, 08:47 PM
you know i don't get that bloated from it at all. :scratch:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 08:47 PM
you know i don't get that bloated from it at all. :scratch:
:ban:
MichelleS
10-13-2007, 08:48 PM
but I break out like crazy so i stop taking it after 6 weeks :ban:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 08:48 PM
That's weird :scratch:
MichelleS
10-13-2007, 08:52 PM
yeah and its plain unflavored powder :dry: some times i just take the scoop and put it in my mouth and swallow the powder with my water.
Took more today.
I'm going to add splenda, chocolate sauce and peanut butter next time. Something has to work.
Blondell
10-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Took more today.
I'm going to add splenda, chocolate sauce and peanut butter next time. Something has to work.
:sad: I've tried many things. If it is as bad as mine, just mix w/ an ounce of water, chug and chase it as if it's hard liquor.
:sad: I've tried many things. If it is as bad as mine, just mix w/ an ounce of water, chug and chase it as if it's hard liquor.
Hard liquor tastes like candy compared to this nonsense. :lol:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 11:53 PM
:lol3:
It ruins whatever you add it to. Better to just chug it on it's own.
MichelleS
10-14-2007, 05:36 AM
Hard liquor tastes like candy compared to this nonsense. :lol:
thats cause you drink pansy hard liquor :lol:
Citruscide
10-14-2007, 07:47 AM
thats cause you drink pansy hard liquor :lol:
Yeah, I'm not sure I'd qualify wine coolers or peach schnapps as hard liquor... LOL
straitshooter
10-14-2007, 04:40 PM
i use CEE (when i remember, that is). I just add it to my PWO shake along w/ my BCAAs and chug it. Grow a set, Erik! ;) LOL
i use CEE (when i remember, that is). I just add it to my PWO shake along w/ my BCAAs and chug it. Grow a set, Erik! ;) LOL
:shock:
Blondell
10-14-2007, 10:04 PM
Maybe I missed this, but which brand do you have, Erik?
Hmm, I'll report back after I look.
Blondell
10-17-2007, 04:34 PM
^^did you look?
sarahlou
10-30-2007, 05:09 PM
I was curious if you are still taking creatine and if you think it has made any difference.
Thanx
Sarah Lou
Sohee
12-14-2008, 03:25 AM
This stuff is vile. :barf:
I'd better not be a non-responder.
This stuff is vile. :barf:
I'd better not be a non-responder.
:lol::lol:
This stuff is vile. :barf:
I'd better not be a non-responder.
You're crazy. This stuff tastes awesome!! :yum:
Sohee
12-14-2008, 07:21 AM
You're crazy. This stuff tastes awesome!! :yum:
I can practically feel the sarcasm here :dry:
Sohee
12-14-2008, 11:13 PM
Just thought of this last night. I have glucomannan capsules that I use sometimes in my shakes and such, but when I use them, I just open the capsules and pour the powder in, leaving me with empty capsules.
I've filled some of them with the creatine ethyl ester so I can down them without having to taste it :yucky:. Am I a genius or what? :bannana:
Just thought of this last night. I have glucomannan capsules that I use sometimes in my shakes and such, but when I use them, I just open the capsules and pour the powder in, leaving me with empty capsules.
I've filled some of them with the creatine ethyl ester so I can down them without having to taste it :yucky:. Am I a genius or what? :bannana:
:lol: You've got way too much free time. :funny: It is a good idea though.
Sohee
12-15-2008, 11:22 PM
:ban3: is all I have to say. :grumble:
Kristyn
12-17-2008, 01:05 PM
hey, whatever works Sohee! at least you can get them down now. :)
Sohee
12-17-2008, 01:10 PM
hey, whatever works Sohee! at least you can get them down now. :)
No need for that :wigging:
Creatine Ester Scam Exposed
December 12, 2008
Creatine Ethyl Ester is widely used in dietary supplements. It contains a Creatine Molecule with an Ethyl group attached to it which is reported to advantages over Creatine Monohydrate. Supplement companies claim that the CEE provides greater solubility in fats, leading to improved absorption. Other companies claim that the CEE avoids the breakdown of creatine into creatinine in stomach acids. Often the norm in the supplement industry, none of these claims have been tested in any study … until now!
Creatine Esters vs. Creatine Monohydrate
Three commercial creatine products were put to the test:
1. “CM2 Alpha” which is made by SAN (pictured on right)
2. CE2 made by MRI. (pictured above)
3. Creatine Monohydrate (standard Creapure brand).
Each product product was placed in 900 ml of Hydrochloric Acid and samples where drawn at 5, 30 and 120 minutes.
Test Results After 30 Minutes
* Only 73% of the initial CEE present was available from CE2.
* While the amount of CEE available from SAN’s CM2 Alpha was even lower at only 62%.
* In contrast, more than 99% of the Creatine remained available from the regular Creatine Monohydrate product.
Test Results After 120 Minutes
* 72% of the initial CEE was available from CE2.
* Only 11% available from San CM2 Alpha.
* In contrast, more than 99% of the creatine remained available from CM.
Conclusion
Unfortunately, the addition of the Ethyl Group to Creatine actually reduces acid stability and accelerates its breakdown to creatinine. This substantially reduces creatine availability. Stick with the Monohydrate form of Creatine.
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