View Full Version : Guidelines for a cheat day?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Okay, if I wanna give this a try, what guidelines should I follow? How should it be set up?
donnajo
10-13-2007, 04:15 PM
Just eat. :lol3:
Hey this was my cheat meal last night. Just for shits and giggles
Greek panini sandwich. I ate half. with calamata olives , chicken, spinach, feta.
French fries with lots of ketchup
french onion soup
Later on : not planned but 1/2 of laurens ice cream cone she could not finish.\
:lol: It was yummy. Cept, I had a tummy ache. I am not used to fried foods anymore. That was the first time I had them in a year.
1. Don't plan it.
2. Keep meal frequency intact - that is, don't gorge so much at once that you can't eat again for 8 hours. Eat like you normally would (ie. don't skip meals), but eat what you want, and to the point of fullness, not sickness.
I think the second point in that sentence is key. Don't eat to the point of sickness. Eat to the point of fullness and when you start to get a bit hungry again, do it again.
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:16 PM
Just eat. Just eating could set me back quite a bit. I can easily down 7000 cals in one day.
donnajo
10-13-2007, 04:17 PM
Just eating could set me back quite a bit. I can easily down 7000 cals in one day.
:shock: :lol3:
Just eating could set me back quite a bit. I can easily down 7000 cals in one day.
Ok, if you wanted to put a rule or some kind of limitation on it - eat what you want, but keep fat to a certain gram total for the day. That limits some foods, or at least how much you can eat of them. That gives you some sort of structure or ball park to stay inside.
Can you easily put that kind of caloric intake down without getting full?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:18 PM
1. Don't plan it.
2. Keep meal frequency intact - that is, don't gorge so much at once that you can't eat again for 8 hours. Eat like you normally would (ie. don't skip meals), but eat what you want, and to the point of fullness, not sickness.
I think the second point in that sentence is key. Don't eat to the point of sickness. Eat to the point of fullness and when you start to get a bit hungry again, do it again.
So if I normally eat 5 meals stick to 5, correct? I'd like to do this on my b-day. It's about 3 weeks away. Should refeeds/cheats be dropped until then?
donnajo
10-13-2007, 04:19 PM
1. Don't plan it.
2. Keep meal frequency intact - that is, don't gorge so much at once that you can't eat again for 8 hours. Eat like you normally would (ie. don't skip meals), but eat what you want, and to the point of fullness, not sickness.
I think the second point in that sentence is key. Don't eat to the point of sickness. Eat to the point of fullness and when you start to get a bit hungry again, do it again.
:yeahthat: If I start to feel the sensation of full I stop. Also, eat slow because it takes awhile for the stomach to realize it is full and if you eat too fast you could overdo it. Like last night I ate half the sanwich and half the fries and half the soup. I got what I liked and craved but did not overdo it.
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:20 PM
Ok, if you wanted to put a rule or some kind of limitation on it - eat what you want, but keep fat to a certain gram total for the day. That limits some foods, or at least how much you can eat of them. That gives you some sort of structure or ball park to stay inside.
That sets a better guideline, thanks.
Can you easily put that kind of caloric intake down without getting full?
It really depends on the foods I eat. Somethings seem to never fill me no matter how much I eat of them......ice cream being one.
donnajo
10-13-2007, 04:22 PM
That sets a better guideline, thanks.
It really depends on the foods I eat. Somethings seem to never fill me no matter how much I eat of them......ice cream being one.
Then portion it out and put the ice cream away and say no more maybe.
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:23 PM
no
definition, please? Also, could you use it in a sentence? :lol3:
:jk: Thanks, donna :love:
donnajo
10-13-2007, 04:26 PM
definition, please? Also, could you use it in a sentence? :lol3:
:jk: Thanks, donna :love:
Where did I type just no? I think this went over my head. I think I am gonna feel more stupid in a few minutes.
No....the oppisite of yes. Also a word that little children learn how to say but not listen to.:lol3:
Mommy: Lauren, eat your eggs.
Lauren: NO, I don't want to eat my eggs.
Lauren: I want to stay up and watch show.
Mommy: No, you have to go to bed.
Lauren: NO!
Blondell
10-13-2007, 04:28 PM
It was in your last reply, homo. :lol:
I really appreciate the help guys. Now, should I hold off on the refeeds/cheats until then?
Patricia
10-13-2007, 05:40 PM
Just eating could set me back quite a bit. I can easily down 7000 cals in one day.
Me too.
Very easy.
Patricia
10-13-2007, 05:42 PM
That sets a better guideline, thanks.
It really depends on the foods I eat. Somethings seem to never fill me no matter how much I eat of them......ice cream being one.
Yep. And candy. Any kind.
:shrug:
My b/f and I have eaten for SNACK/DESSERT (read:after a burger or pizza)
6-7 FAMILY SIZED bags of Peanut MnMs.....
Patricia
10-13-2007, 05:44 PM
ETA--me, personally, I know myself well.
I will not and cannot 'moderate'. I do NOT stop at 'satisfied'...hell, I ain't satisfied until I am sick feeling. Just the way it is....
so...
I
a) abstain completely (like now)
b) keep it to the very last meal or as late as possible on Sunday so I just can't stuff myself silly too much
c) wait until an all out gorge day won't set me back or matter......
Sportsgirl
10-13-2007, 06:37 PM
Have you ever tried IF Blondell?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 06:39 PM
No, I have not researched it enough yet. I have looked into it though and it, in some ways, does interest me. You like it?
Sportsgirl
10-13-2007, 06:43 PM
No, I have not researched it enough yet. I have looked into it though and it, in some ways, does interest me. You like it?
Ya I do, I really like it. It's like having refeeds 3x a week :lol: I think it will work superbly for cutting too. Especially since I'm trying to do a mini-bulk on it and I've lost weight instead :ban:
Patricia
10-13-2007, 07:07 PM
Ya I do, I really like it. It's like having refeeds 3x a week :lol: I think it will work superbly for cutting too. Especially since I'm trying to do a mini-bulk on it and I've lost weight instead :ban:
IF= intermittent (sp?) fasting I assume?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 07:09 PM
yep :)
Patricia
10-13-2007, 07:12 PM
Is that basically like PSMF?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 07:14 PM
Is that basically like PSMF?
Nah, you go most of the day w/o eating anything, but then you get to eat all of the days calories in a short period of a few hours or so. I'll try and find you a link.
Patricia
10-13-2007, 07:15 PM
Nah, you go most of the day w/o eating anything, but then you get to eat all of the days calories in a short period of a few hours or so. I'll try and find you a link.
Isn't this what we do when we are trying to NOT eat anyway?!?!
:lol3:
I mean, you say..."Today I am NOT eating! I ate sooo bad this weekend..."
So you make it until 7pm and break down and raid the fridge and pantry?!?
:lol:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 07:21 PM
Have you ever noticed how good you look if you go a day w/o eating and then you binge? :funny: IF :thumb: :funny: :funny:
Sportsgirl
10-13-2007, 07:24 PM
I eat for about 28 hours and fast for 20 hours. And about 8 of the fasting hours I am asleep :thumb:
Patricia
10-13-2007, 07:25 PM
I eat for about 28 hours and fast for 20 hours. And about 8 of the fasting hours I am asleep :thumb:
I'd like to see how much you eat...:lol: I know if I ate for 28 hours......
I'm sure it's still controlled somehow, no?
Blondell
10-13-2007, 07:26 PM
I eat for about 28 hours and fast for 20 hours. And about 8 of the fasting hours I am asleep :thumb:Share more. I don't think I've ever heard of it being done this way. I've only seen the breakdown of 24hr intervals (ex. fast for 16hr, eat for 8 etc).
Sportsgirl
10-13-2007, 07:29 PM
I'd like to see how much you eat...:lol: I know if I ate for 28 hours......
I'm sure it's still controlled somehow, no?
Oh hell yes. I'm counting all my calories. I'm trying to average 2300-2500 calories per day (bulking). So that means in the 28 hours I'm taking in between 4500-5000 calories. I'm also aiming for about 700g carbs and still trying to keep the fats relatively low (50-100g)
Here is what I'm doing. Lyle posted it on BR:
eating wise, assuming an evening workout, here's what I'd do on the eat days
5 hours out, small meal of protein, carbs with some fruit
2 hours out, small meal of protein, carb swith some fruit
train: carb/protein drink during workout. think 30 g carbs and 8-10 g whey protein.
immediate post workout: dextrose/glucose + whey protein and creatine. then eat like a crazed weasel until 6pm the following evening.
the fruit is important, you need to get the liver back into an anabolic mode, taht means refilling liver glycogen.
cut off eating around 6 pm the following evening and fast until the next eating period. this should give you nearly 24 solid hours eating. a little short of protein synthesis rates but it's back to baseline at 36 hours and the last meal will carry you through the evening if you pick whole foods.
So schematically
day 1: fast until 5 hous before workout, eat, eat again, train, eat. let's say you train at 7pm, so you start eating at 2pm
day 2: eat all day until 6pm. back to fasting
day 3: repeat day 1 start eating at 2pm, that gives you 20 hours of fasting
day 4: repeat day 2
day 5: repeat day 1
day 6: repeat day 2
day 7: random thought: keep this a fasting day, maybe some cardio in the morning. would this keep fat gains at bay?
This works for training 3x a week. I'm not doing cardio on Day 7 yet though. Too lazy :lol:
Patricia
10-13-2007, 07:36 PM
I'm gonna look over this...I may give it a go around the holidays in case I stuff myself silly too long....:lol:
Then, I plan on pickin' back up with my reg training and heading to the Windy City...but that's a whole nother thread...:shhh:
Thanks.
jaleena
10-13-2007, 11:55 PM
Just eating could set me back quite a bit. I can easily down 7000 cals in one day.
:blink:
I don't get this. I have to pay attention to getting enough food, and "enough" isn't much more than 2000cals. Even in hardcore bulk mode, I eat less than 3000cals...there just isn't time in the day for more unless I'm pouring oil down my throat :yucky:
That said, for me, every day is a cheat day...I get my protein and fish oils in, and then eat whatever the heck I want to get my desired cals. Just eat :shrug:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 11:57 PM
:blink:
I don't get this. I have to pay attention to getting enough food, and "enough" isn't much more than 2000cals. Even in hardcore bulk mode, I eat less than 3000cals...there just isn't time in the day for more unless I'm pouring oil down my throat :yucky:
I have no life and plenty of time to eat. It's like the a pastime. :yum:
Blondell
10-13-2007, 11:57 PM
I should also note that Erik has told me that it's emotional eating stemming from boredom. :oops:
jaleena
10-14-2007, 12:05 AM
Hrm...I kind of have the opposite sometimes. I will be hungry but too lazy to get out of bed to eat :oops:
Patricia
10-14-2007, 01:14 AM
:blink:
I don't get this. I have to pay attention to getting enough food, and "enough" isn't much more than 2000cals. Even in hardcore bulk mode, I eat less than 3000cals...there just isn't time in the day for more unless I'm pouring oil down my throat :yucky:
That said, for me, every day is a cheat day...I get my protein and fish oils in, and then eat whatever the heck I want to get my desired cals. Just eat :shrug:
It's easy for me.
Breakfast at a cafe--pancakes, syrup, bacon, eggs, toast, coffee...easily over 1,500 cals...
Lunch could be a Chipotle burrito which is HUGE and I can eat the whole thing without blinking.....about 1,000 cals....plus chips n guac
Various snacks and candy throughout the day
Pizza and a whole pint (1,300 cals by itself) of BnJ for dinner....
I have done this. :lol:
Sarawithanh
10-14-2007, 03:37 PM
I had an unplanned cheat day yesterday :lol3: :lol3: we were at the Renaissance Festival -and I feel like I didn't binge or anything (at least not like last yr when I was someone elses plan). I'm quite impressed, I loved how I controlled myself.
m1 2 eggs & veggies scrambled; string cheese; pear
m2 mac n cheese on a stick (6 small balls); 1 carlsberg beer on tap
m3 apple cider; bite of fried snickers; bite of a fried oreo
m4 mac n cheese on a stick (4 small balls); 1 sam adams cherry wheat beer
m5 1 slice of dominos pizza; and a few spoonfuls of Ben & Jerry's ice cream
:D
It's also very easy for me to get in over 4000 kcal without even trying. 5000 kcal is when I start to feel slightly stuffed. Now 6000-7000 kcal does require a bit more 'planning'.
But really after a recent 4000 kcal day I was stunned at how little I actually ate to get there. Fudge and Turkish delight did that to me. The 5000 kcal was on Dutch treacle waffles.
I'm sure 6000-7000 kcal required eating several bags of potato crisps and a pizza or an entire cake. Yum!
That 4000 kcal day started somewhere in the mid-afternoon.
Obviously the only way to limit calorie intake and still feel satisfied is to eat these yummy things closest to bed time. Provided you're not a sleep walker or don't delay sleeping too much you'll then be 'safe'.
Speaking about IF: I've tried the 16hr fast + 8hr eating window only for a few days. Didn't work well since I was frrrrreeezzzzing cold nearly immediately. But then again, it appears I'm slightly hypothyroid w T3 levels a tad below the desired range. I've had tons of experience with IF hardcore style up to not eating anything for over 48hrs. Obviously my body must have adapted the wrong way.
Anyways.. the pattern I like best now is: brekkie at 9-10am (eggs & coffee work best), 'lunch' at 6pm when I don't lift, otherwise at 4pm and dinner at 10pm. I'll lift & do cardio around 6-8pm every other day. This way I still 'fast' but will do so in the busiest time of the day.
Every time I break the fast somewhere in between 10am-4/6 pm I'll notice how I tend to get sleepy soon after which oftentimes leads to overeating later in the day. This doesn't happen when I just stick to my 'guns' and just chew gum or perhaps have another coffee/diet soda etc.
To come back to the cheat days: I'm absolutely amazed at how little variation some people have in their calories. Both ways actually: they already feel 'starved' when eating just 200-300 kcal below maintenance and completely 'stuffed' when eating 300 kcal more than maintenance. Just can't comprehend...
mackie
10-14-2007, 07:57 PM
I had an unplanned cheat day yesterday :lol3: :lol3: we were at the Renaissance Festival -and I feel like I didn't binge or anything (at least not like last yr when I was someone elses plan). I'm quite impressed, I loved how I controlled myself.
m1 2 eggs & veggies scrambled; string cheese; pear
m2 mac n cheese on a stick (6 small balls); 1 carlsberg beer on tap
m3 apple cider; bite of fried snickers; bite of a fried oreo
m4 mac n cheese on a stick (4 small balls); 1 sam adams cherry wheat beer
m5 1 slice of dominos pizza; and a few spoonfuls of Ben & Jerry's ice cream
:D
Mac & Cheese "on a stick" ??? They're "balls" ? hmm... I can't picture that. :scratch:
Blondell
10-15-2007, 07:08 PM
Maybe it's fried mac n cheese?? :scratch:
GraceGirl
10-15-2007, 07:55 PM
Fried snickers and oreos?! That's almost as bad as Paula Deen cooking fried butter on her show. Yep...fried butter. That woman is insane.
GraceGirl
10-15-2007, 07:58 PM
As far as cheat day guidelines go, the only way I could ever control a cheat day is by doing what Erik said (go figure) and limiting fat grams. And that's because most of the things I go crazy on are LOADED with fat. I could probably top that 7000 cal binge on peanut butter, trail mix, pizza, and chocolate.
Speaking of peanut butter and chocolate....have you guys seen that white chocolate peanut butter they're selling at Wal Mart now?! Run fast; run hard!!!
jlb001
10-15-2007, 08:17 PM
Fried snickers and oreos?! That's almost as bad as Paula Deen cooking fried butter on her show. Yep...fried butter. That woman is insane.
WTF?
SusanF
10-15-2007, 08:21 PM
As far as cheat day guidelines go, the only way I could ever control a cheat day is by doing what Erik said (go figure) and limiting fat grams. And that's because most of the things I go crazy on are LOADED with fat. I could probably top that 7000 cal binge on peanut butter, trail mix, pizza, and chocolate.
Speaking of peanut butter and chocolate....have you guys seen that white chocolate peanut butter they're selling at Wal Mart now?! Run fast; run hard!!!
Costco trail mix has been my downfall many a time. Now, I refuse to have it in the house! Same goes for peanut m&m's (had a go-round with these this weekend).
GraceGirl
10-15-2007, 08:24 PM
WTF?
Yeah! She's notorious for cooking rediculously fattening dishes, and the scary thing is that she has a restaurant and serves them!!
Fried Butter:
You just take a crap load of butter, mix it with a little cream cheese, shape into balls, stick the butter balls in the freezer, and then deep fry the hell out of 'em. Don't ever eat these or you will die.
GraceGirl
10-15-2007, 08:28 PM
Costco trail mix has been my downfall many a time. Now, I refuse to have it in the house! Same goes for peanut m&m's (had a go-round with these this weekend).
Yep, I CAN'T BUY those giant monster bags of trail mix or I will most certainly eat the whole darn thing. And yes, peanut m&m's!!!!!! I'm a bit of a peanut freak....and a cashew freak....and an almond freak.
I guess I'm just a nut. :laugh: :laugh:
kelster
10-15-2007, 08:43 PM
Costco trail mix has been my downfall many a time. Now, I refuse to have it in the house! Same goes for peanut m&m's (had a go-round with these this weekend).
:ditto: :lol:
Cindy Day
10-15-2007, 08:50 PM
Yeah! She's notorious for cooking rediculously fattening dishes, and the scary thing is that she has a restaurant and serves them!!
Fried Butter:
You just take a crap load of butter, mix it with a little cream cheese, shape into balls, stick the butter balls in the freezer, and then deep fry the hell out of 'em. Don't ever eat these or you will die.
You know you wish she were your Grand Mother. I do. :lol: :p
Blondell
10-15-2007, 09:03 PM
You know you wish she were your Grand Mother. I do. :lol: :p
:ditto: I love watching Paula during my bulks. She's part of the reason I put on so much weight. :oops: :lol:
:yum:
GraceGirl
10-15-2007, 09:12 PM
You know you wish she were your Grand Mother. I do. :lol: :p
She used to be my grandmother. Then I ballooned to almost 250 on my 5'2" frame, so I divorced her.
Cindy Day
10-15-2007, 10:54 PM
She used to be my grandmother. Then I ballooned to almost 250 on my 5'2" frame, so I divorced her.
Good answer. :thumb:
Maybe I'll adopt her for a HoliDAY (DAY, not season). :whistling: :piggie:
If you make a cheat day a low-fat day then it's no longer a cheat day but a refeed. And that ain't no fun! At least not for me... perhaps people who like to eat a low-fat high-carb diet anyway like it, but generally I can't think of much fun things: owww caramel-glazed rice!!!! Drool!
GraceGirl
10-17-2007, 03:16 PM
If you make a cheat day a low-fat day then it's no longer a cheat day but a refeed. And that ain't no fun! At least not for me... perhaps people who like to eat a low-fat high-carb diet anyway like it, but generally I can't think of much fun things: owww caramel-glazed rice!!!! Drool!
True, however the original question was asking for some kind of a guideline to not completely overdo it. Limiting fat grams is just that.
Now if you want your cheat day to be an absolute free-for-all, then 2000 fat grams should suffice. :D
mackie
10-17-2007, 08:50 PM
guidelines schmidelines!
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LOL @ GraceGirl, I don't think there's many who can eat that much.. 2000x9 = 18.000 kcal just from fat.
No, the easiest way to limit food intake and still eat as 'much' as you like is to limit it to a certain time period in which you know you can't eat more than 1500-2000 kcal or whatever amount of calories you allow yourself to eat. If that's 1 hour, fine. If that's only 15 minutes.. then let it be 15 minutes.
And of course: don't buy too much food if you are able to have control over what goes into your pantry/fridge/freezer.
I must say that I'm getting better & better in finding strategies to have cheat meals and still keep within a certain calorie range. It does help tremendously to finally get satiated upon eating carbs, rather than just become more & more ravenous instead. Lowish-fat can even be tasty, but only if you choose it voluntarily. Caramel rice cakes, caramellized rice pudding, fruit sherberts are all nice & tasty lowish-fat options. I do try to avoid gluten on cheat days , esp. since it makes me feel bad (joint pain, bloating, memory problems)
GraceGirl
10-18-2007, 07:24 PM
LOL @ GraceGirl, I don't think there's many who can eat that much.. 2000x9 = 18.000 kcal just from fat.
No, the easiest way to limit food intake and still eat as 'much' as you like is to limit it to a certain time period in which you know you can't eat more than 1500-2000 kcal or whatever amount of calories you allow yourself to eat. If that's 1 hour, fine. If that's only 15 minutes.. then let it be 15 minutes.
And of course: don't buy too much food if you are able to have control over what goes into your pantry/fridge/freezer.
I must say that I'm getting better & better in finding strategies to have cheat meals and still keep within a certain calorie range. It does help tremendously to finally get satiated upon eating carbs, rather than just become more & more ravenous instead. Lowish-fat can even be tasty, but only if you choose it voluntarily. Caramel rice cakes, caramellized rice pudding, fruit sherberts are all nice & tasty lowish-fat options. I do try to avoid gluten on cheat days , esp. since it makes me feel bad (joint pain, bloating, memory problems)
Great advice!! I'm finding that when I really plan a cheat day, I tend to not eat nearly as much than if it was a spontaneous thing. As I'm sure we all experience, when I eat junk, I feel like total and absolute crap. What I'm learning is that the taste of that super giant bag of trail mix and that "gotta have it" size birthday cake ice cream cup from Cold Stone isn't worth the horrible physical effects they bring. I've discovered that I can actually eat a
"like it" size cup and still get the yummy taste without feeling like I got hit by a Mack truck.
So I too am learning how to sample the things I can't live without while finding healthier indulgences as well. [I actually prefer sugar free jelly to regular jelly, Ezekiel bread to crap bread, and yummy curried wheat berry. BTW, has anyone tried Breyer's Free (of fat) double churn ice cream?! Delicious and great for a refeed!!]
So now I'm rambling. Off to Cold Stone.... :eggos: :laugh:
SusanF
10-18-2007, 08:11 PM
Great advice!! I'm finding that when I really plan a cheat day, I tend to not eat nearly as much than if it was a spontaneous thing. As I'm sure we all experience, when I eat junk, I feel like total and absolute crap. What I'm learning is that the taste of that super giant bag of trail mix and that "gotta have it" size birthday cake ice cream cup from Cold Stone isn't worth the horrible physical effects they bring. I've discovered that I can actually eat a
"like it" size cup and still get the yummy taste without feeling like I got hit by a Mack truck.
So I too am learning how to sample the things I can't live without while finding healthier indulgences as well. [I actually prefer sugar free jelly to regular jelly, Ezekiel bread to crap bread, and yummy curried wheat berry. BTW, has anyone tried Breyer's Free (of fat) double churn ice cream?! Delicious and great for a refeed!!]
So now I'm rambling. Off to Cold Stone.... :eggos: :laugh:
YES!:yum:
I :love: it. If only I had my PWO meal at home, this might be it! So creamy!
Carolyn
10-31-2007, 02:23 AM
If your dieting, how does a cheat day not ruin it for the week? How do you still manage to lose? Do you lower your calories for a couple of days, or does it somehow work differently?
Yesterday I had a larger cheat day than planned (3000kcal instad of 2500) and yet, this morning my BW was lower than ever before! WTH! I barely overate on carbs (200g) but shoveled in a huge amt of fat (near 200g) from cheese (a trigger food!) and chocolate!
Was almost throwing up at the thought of chocolate today but I faithfully had my daily 8 gram (2 mini-squares) and tsp of cocoa this morning.
It's been one of the first times I'm actually lighter after a cheat meal. Really funky stuff happens when you overeat (temporarily) and then switch back to diet mode.
GraceGirl
11-01-2007, 08:21 PM
Yesterday I had a larger cheat day than planned (3000kcal instad of 2500) and yet, this morning my BW was lower than ever before! WTH! I barely overate on carbs (200g) but shoveled in a huge amt of fat (near 200g) from cheese (a trigger food!) and chocolate!
Was almost throwing up at the thought of chocolate today but I faithfully had my daily 8 gram (2 mini-squares) and tsp of cocoa this morning.
It's been one of the first times I'm actually lighter after a cheat meal. Really funky stuff happens when you overeat (temporarily) and then switch back to diet mode.
OK, so this is my excuse to indulge in cheese and chocolate. Then I can pray, pray, pray I have the same scale experience as you. :D Really though, I've been too terribly good with my diet lately, and Saturday my husband and I celebrate our fifth anniversary as well as his 31st birthday. (We got married on his birthday so he'd NEVER forget our anniversary. Ha!) We have a sitter for BOTH kids, so I'm planning that as a cheat day. And no, I don't want rules. Screw rules. :devil:
Really though, the main thing I want is sushi. Lots of sushi. And maybe some cheese and chocolate. :piggie:
Blondell
11-01-2007, 08:29 PM
If your dieting, how does a cheat day not ruin it for the week? How do you still manage to lose? Do you lower your calories for a couple of days, or does it somehow work differently?
I don't have cheat days every week.
If your dieting, how does a cheat day not ruin it for the week? How do you still manage to lose? Do you lower your calories for a couple of days, or does it somehow work differently?
I am currently training with Erik, and I have now had several all day cheats (4 to be exact). I believe that yes my calories have been lowered from a day to day basis- I am guessing to compensate for the all day cheat. I was very nervous at first because I did not want to screw it up or worse, gain weight. The key for me, and one of the rules of the all day cheat is to be 100% compliant for a specific # of days and then (if you have been 100%) you get an all day cheat.
I have loved having them. It makes me really focus on staying 100% on plan, because I know down the road I get the entire day to endulge. :yum: I think it is important not to plan ahead. This can lead to you eating just to eat, not because of hunger. So, I just wake up the day of my cheat I ask myself what I feel like eating. I have seen huge progress over the past 8 weeks when having these.
I am sure they are not for everyone, but they have worked for me.
OK, so this is my excuse to indulge in cheese and chocolate. Then I can pray, pray, pray I have the same scale experience as you. :D Really though, I've been too terribly good with my diet lately, and Saturday my husband and I celebrate our fifth anniversary as well as his 31st birthday. (We got married on his birthday so he'd NEVER forget our anniversary. Ha!) We have a sitter for BOTH kids, so I'm planning that as a cheat day. And no, I don't want rules. Screw rules. :devil:
Really though, the main thing I want is sushi. Lots of sushi. And maybe some cheese and chocolate. :piggie:
I'd really expected to get punished for the pig-out of 200g fats 2 days later, but instead got another reward : weight dropped further into VT and I'm shocked to see 60.9kg on the scale. It's been nearly 25 years ago since that happened.
I don't have cheat days every week.
Me neither.. after much experimentation I've found that even when I plan for weekly cheat days, I would still end up cheating BIG time in 'that time of month!' while once i am eating junkfood on any time of the month I'd still eat huge amounts.
So.. I preplan most days to a T in advance including what kind of foods to eat but sometimes let myself get carried away for a bit. Until ovulation this works out brilliantly, and I can 'save up' calories this way. After ovulation I'm getting considerably more hungry and plan for WAY more calories.
Since I've already saved up in the preceding weeks, there's more damage control.
While perhaps there's a slightly higher metabolism in the luteal phase, appetite is just too high to have an advantage. Or perhaps it does, as all of a sudden I'm hitting VT during this phase! Anyway.. if you have a choice re how many refeeds/cheat days to take, you don't really need to have one every week, since you may end up needing more than one a 'certain time of month'.
Sohee
06-01-2009, 11:55 PM
I should not be in here :lol3:
Cathie
06-02-2009, 12:04 AM
I should not be in here :lol3:
Why are you? :bitch:
Sohee
06-02-2009, 12:06 AM
Why are you? :bitch:
Because I remembered reading this thread a year ago and salivating over the thought of a cheat day.
I am still salivating :lol:
Cathie
06-02-2009, 12:08 AM
Because I remembered reading this thread a year ago and salivating over the thought of a cheat day.
I am still salivating :lol:
:sad:
:lol3:
fluteangel
06-02-2009, 03:15 AM
I'm left wondering what sets the guidelines for you getting to have an all day cheat in the first place? Is it that you are losing too fast? That you are right on track with your measurewhen you are dieting) when you need them vs. a refeed?
Sohee
06-02-2009, 03:23 AM
I'm left wondering what sets the guidelines for you getting to have an all day cheat in the first place? Is it that you are losing too fast? That you are right on track with your measurewhen you are dieting) when you need them vs. a refeed?
Level of leanness I believe.
I don't think there's a need to have an all-day cheat when you are losing too fast. That just means you can eat more food on your diet.
Level of leanness I believe.
In some cases.
Not others.
I don't think there's a need to have an all-day cheat when you are losing too fast. That just means you can eat more food on your diet.
Right. All day cheats are not there to slow down progress.
Sohee
06-02-2009, 04:03 AM
In some cases.
Not others.
What are the other cases?
Sohee
06-04-2009, 03:39 AM
:o2:
Something tells me that Cathie is gonna have to :bitch: you again!!!
:laugh:
Cathie
06-04-2009, 03:49 AM
:o2:
Get OUT of the cheat threads!!! :slaphands:
Sohee
06-04-2009, 03:50 AM
Get OUT of the cheat threads!!! :slaphands:
I'm waiting for Erik to answer my question :lol:
Cathie
06-04-2009, 03:50 AM
I'm waiting for Erik to answer my question :lol:
:funny:
Get out until he does!!! :bitch:
:funny:
Blondell
06-04-2009, 11:38 AM
That sounds like a new thread idea, Sohee. ;)
fluteangel
06-04-2009, 03:28 PM
Heck, I'm still waiting too! You can't make that kind of statement, have someone question and then not offer an explanation! :whipped:
Waiting :o2: lol
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