Calories in BCAA's/Glutamine??

[Blondell]

This is just something I've wondered about for a while. Since these are AA's wouldn't each gram have the standard 4 cals? For example, if you take in 10g of BCAA's, wouldn't that be 40 cals? :unsure:

[Blondell]

To add to the above question...

Do they (bcaa's/glutamine) cause a spike in insulin? If you are taking yohimbine b/c fasted cardio, wouldn't sipping on these b/f, or during, that cardio session make the yohimbine ineffective for stubborn fat?

[Blondell]

^^

[Patyal]

I've been keeping an eye on this post, waiting for someone to reply :hehe:

I searched about this on google and wilkipedia but nothing. :(

[Erik]

To add to the above question...

Do they (bcaa's/glutamine) cause a spike in insulin? If you are taking yohimbine b/c fasted cardio, wouldn't sipping on these b/f, or during, that cardio session make the yohimbine ineffective for stubborn fat?

BCAAs are proinsulinemic yes.

For the SFP I'd pass on the pre-workout BCAAs.

[Blondell]

I've been keeping an eye on this post, waiting for someone to reply :hehe:

I searched about this on google and wilkipedia but nothing. :(
I searched b/f asking too. I'd really like to know an answer. Someone has got to know. :lol:

[Blondell]

BCAAs are proinsulinemic yes.

For the SFP I'd pass on the pre-workout BCAAs.
Thanks, Erik. So, they do have calories then, correct?

[Erik]

Yes

[Audrey]

The BCAA's do have calories in them.

If you are concerned about muscle loss, you could drink a bit of whey right before the SFP session (according to Lyle McDonald). The slight insulin spike caused by the whey would be mitigated by the start of the cardio session right after.

[Espi]

Normally I count everything, but I'm not making that effort for glutamine, since it's not a supplement I'm using often.. right now I'm starting to do it daily (blegh!!!) and had better start adding it to my food monitor program.

Yep, whey is insulinogenic. Though this doesn't really mean your blood sugar levels will go up. However, a word of caution. Dairy is quite insulinogenic while not raising blood sugar levels. Some people get incredibly sleepy because of this.. I'm one of them.
I've always thought it was due to blood sugar levels dropping after too much insulin getting into the blood stream and lowering bs levels, but apparently it's a brain thing, making dairy (esp. cheese, cc or Quark) the perfect sleep aid.

Not sure though how insulinogenic BCAAs and/or glutamine is.. I'm afraid it is. Had 10g of peptides yesterday and you could've knocked me down with a feather 1-2 hrs later.

[jcg]

This is just something I've wondered about for a while. Since these are AA's wouldn't each gram have the standard 4 cals? For example, if you take in 10g of BCAA's, wouldn't that be 40 cals? :unsure:

I've been using ICE forumlation BCAA and glutamine. The nutrition facts say "0" calories per 10 g serving (3320 mg L-leucine, 1490 mg L-Isoleucine, 1730 mg L-Valine and 2660 mg L-Glutamine).

[Blondell]

I've been using ICE forumlation BCAA and glutamine. The nutrition facts say "0" calories per 10 g serving (3320 mg L-leucine, 1490 mg L-Isoleucine, 1730 mg L-Valine and 2660 mg L-Glutamine).
That would have to be a lie if they (bcaa) have cals. This would be 40 cals.

[jcg]

That would have to be a lie if they (bcaa) have cals. This would be 40 cals.

The ICE formulation is supposedly a good brand. Why would they lie on the Nutrition Facts? At any rate, zero calories is what it says.

[jcg]

OK ... well this is weird. I pulled up the nutrition label from some sites selling ICE and, you're right, they say 40 cals. But I'm sitting right here with my bucket of ICE in front of me and it clearly says "0" cals. Bizarre. Maybe it's a misprinted label? :scratch:

Hmmm ... 20g/day = 80 cals. That does add up.

[Blondell]

:)

[Blondell]

I've found more than a couple labels that lie. It happens. :lol:

[Espi]

Just asked my SO this morning about counting the glutamine peptide as he put 2-3 heaping small table/dessert spoons of it into my drink. He said ZERO as there's only 1 amino acid in it. It'd be different for gelatin, since gelatin only LACKS 1 amino acid which renders it as a useless protein source if you'd rely on it.

So.. just shrugged my shoulders and won't be counting it after all. Besides I'm supposed to lower my protein intake and up fats.. which would be even harder if I'd count the glutamine towards my daily total protein intake.

[Cindy Day]

If BCAAs are not recommended pre or post workout, what is the arguement about the amino's being destroyed to some degree with the cooking of proteins (meats, egg whites)? It's not like every meal is a whey shake and one a day certainly doesn't meet the bcaa requirements does it?

[Erik]

If BCAAs are not recommended pre or post workout,

"Not necessary" is more appropriate.



what is the arguement about the amino's being destroyed to some degree with the cooking of proteins (meats, egg whites)?

There is no argument for amino acids being destroyed by cooking. That's silly. And more importantly, wrong.



It's not like every meal is a whey shake and one a day certainly doesn't meet the bcaa requirements does it?

Read my blog. It's the second last blog post. Answered there.

[Erik]

:lol:

[Inatic]

:lol:

:uhuh: what cha laughin at?