Get Your Greens

Discussion in 'Diet, Nutrition and Supplements' started by Erik, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Petro

    Petro Well-Known Member

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    Erik, can you site your sources please:D
     
  2. Erik

    Erik Admin

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    Can't remember the first one

    John Berardi wrote the second.
     
  3. paige

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    Where do you buy the Biotest Superfoods greens? I can't find it anywhere.
     
  4. Neely

    Neely lolz

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  5. Erik

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    Berardi's take:

    JB occupies an unpaid spot on the research board of Genuine Health (the Canadian distributors of Greens+). Again, it's a volunteer position. And in this position, he’s asked to evaluate the research on their products both published and ongoing. To this end, he has been privy to all the research on the product. The research summaries for studies - both published and in the pipeline - are found at this link: Greens+ Research

    From this you'll see some really interesting benefits directly associated with this product - independent of theoretical objections. This is why we recommend greens products and why we like, in particular, Greens+. We haven't seen any other brands so well researched.

    Recommend an alternative?

    Greens+ is the only such supplement we've actually seen data on, and it's compelling. And no, we don't have any financial relationship with them at all, and we make no money off recommending them. That said, if they ever offer us some money for our recommendations, we'll take it, because it's a very good product.

    With respect to other brands, we just don't know. None of them seem to have presented any data, and we have no experience with any of these other companies. Who knows what's actually in them? Who knows how credible the company is? That's not to say they're necessarily bad products or bad companies; the product may be superior to Greens+ or it may contain floor sweepings from a tire factory. We just don't know, and it's not fair to you or to those companies to merely guess.

    We're VERY careful with what we recommend, since the supplement industry is shady at best. And so in the end, the best we can say is that we recommend Greens+.
     
  6. Cara

    Cara Uh-oh! I smell redneck!

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    I mixed my Greens+ with 1/3 of a small Crystal Light packet yesterday and it wasn't half bad. I still drank it like a shot because it grosses me out, but the taste wasn't nearly as offensive as plain! :thumb:

    ETA: Just saw Neely's post about mixing in Crystal Light. It does make it so much better!
     
  7. Neely

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    I've never done the Greens+, but the Superfood tastes decent on it's own too (IMO).
     
  8. straitshooter

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    i am suddenly interested in this, thanks for the topic, Erik. I don't get enough greens. Period. Fruit? More than likely, but definitely not greens.
     
  9. Erik

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    I've been testing my pH now a couple times per day. Still too acidic although it's coming up - more vegetables/greens+ for me. I'm also cutting out splenda and aspartame (acid forming) for stevia (alkalinizing) ... which means less Diet Pepsi. :ban:
     
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  10. Cathie

    Cathie I have SFP :mecry:

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    Good for you ... shouldn't have that articial chemical stuff anyway ;)
     
  11. Erik

    Erik Admin

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    I know. I've thought that for a while, but now I have more observable reason to make the switch. :oops:
     
  12. Noel Clark

    Noel Clark Senior Member

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    I was reading about other things that can help with Acidity as well...

    Magnesium
    vitamin A and D help hold Calcium in the body which buffers acid
    And then of course all the things that Erik has said.
     
  13. RpH

    RpH I'm actually educated

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    All this acidity stuff is news to me. They didn't teach that in Therapeutics, A&P, Mammalian Physiology, or any other olgy that I took back in the day.
     
  14. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member

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    :thumb: smart move
     
  15. Jen

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    Your body pH affects everything...
    Balancing the pH is a major step toward well-being and greater health.

    The pH scale is from 0 - 14
    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 healthy 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

    Human blood pH should be slightly alkaline ( 7.35 - 7.45 ). Below or above this range means symptoms and disease. A pH of 7.0 is neutral. A pH below 7.0 is acidic. A pH above 7.0 is alkaline.

    An acidic pH can occur from, an acid forming diet, emotional stress, toxic overload, and/or immune reactions or any process that deprives the cells of oxygen and other nutrients. The body will try to compensate for acidic pH by using alkaline minerals. If the diet does not contain enough minerals to compensate, a build up of acids in the cells will occur.

    An acidic balance will: decrease the body's ability to absorb minerals and other nutrients, decrease the energy production in the cells, decrease it's ability to repair damaged cells, decrease it's ability to detoxify heavy metals, make tumor cells thrive, and make it more susceptible to fatigue and illness. A blood pH of 6.9, which is only slightly acidic, can induce coma and death.

    The reason acidosis is more common in our society is mostly due to the typical American diet, which is far too high in acid producing animal products like meat, eggs and dairy, and far too low in alkaline producing foods like fresh vegetables. Additionally, we eat acid producing processed foods like white flour and sugar and drink acid producing beverages like coffee and soft drinks. We use too many drugs, which are acid forming; and we use artificial chemical sweetners like NutraSweet, Spoonful, Sweet 'N Low, Equal, or Aspartame, which are poison and extremely acid forming. One of the best things we can do to correct an overly acid body is to clean up the diet and lifestyle.

    To maintain health, the diet should consist of 60% alkaline forming foods and 40% acid forming foods. To restore health, the diet should consist of 80% alkaline forming foods and 20% acid forming foods.

    Generally, alkaline forming foods include: most fruits, green vegetables, peas, beans, lentils, spices, herbs and seasonings, and seeds and nuts.

    Generally, acid forming foods include: meat, fish, poultry, eggs, grains, and legumes.

    Shifting Your pH Toward Alkaline...

    This chart is for those trying to "adjust" their body pH. The pH scale is from 0 to 14, with numbers below 7 acidic ( low on oxygen ) and numbers above 7 alkaline. An acidic body is a sickness magnet. What you eat and drink will impact where your body's pH level falls. Balance is Key !!!
     
  16. Jen

    Jen Well-Known Member

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    This chart is intended only as a general guide to alkalizing and acidifying foods.
    ...ALKALINE FOODS...


    ...ACIDIC FOODS...
    ALKALIZING VEGETABLES
    Alfalfa
    Barley Grass
    Beet Greens
    Beets
    Broccoli
    Cabbage
    Carrot
    Cauliflower
    Celery
    Chard Greens
    Chlorella
    Collard Greens
    Cucumber
    Dandelions
    Dulce
    Edible Flowers
    Eggplant
    Fermented Veggies
    Garlic
    Green Beans
    Green Peas
    Kale
    Kohlrabi
    Lettuce
    Mushrooms
    Mustard Greens
    Nightshade Veggies
    Onions
    Parsnips (high glycemic)
    Peas
    Peppers
    Pumpkin
    Radishes
    Rutabaga
    Sea Veggies
    Spinach, green
    Spirulina
    Sprouts
    Sweet Potatoes
    Tomatoes
    Watercress
    Wheat Grass
    Wild Greens

    ALKALIZING ORIENTAL VEGETABLES
    Daikon
    Dandelion Root
    Kombu
    Maitake
    Nori
    Reishi
    Shitake
    Umeboshi
    Wakame

    ALKALIZING FRUITS
    Apple
    Apricot
    Avocado
    Banana (high glycemic)
    Berries
    Blackberries
    Cantaloupe
    Cherries, sour
    Coconut, fresh
    Currants
    Dates, dried
    Figs, dried
    Grapes
    Grapefruit
    Honeydew Melon
    Lemon
    Lime
    Muskmelons
    Nectarine
    Orange
    Peach
    Pear
    Pineapple
    Raisins
    Raspberries
    Rhubarb
    Strawberries
    Tangerine
    Tomato
    Tropical Fruits
    Umeboshi Plums
    Watermelon

    ALKALIZING PROTEIN
    Almonds
    Chestnuts
    Millet
    Tempeh (fermented)
    Tofu (fermented)
    Whey Protein Powder

    ALKALIZING SWEETENERS
    Stevia

    ALKALIZING SPICES & SEASONINGS
    Chili Pepper
    Cinnamon
    Curry
    Ginger
    Herbs (all)
    Miso
    Mustard
    Sea Salt
    Tamari

    ALKALIZING OTHER
    Alkaline Antioxidant Water
    Apple Cider Vinegar
    Bee Pollen
    Fresh Fruit Juice
    Green Juices
    Lecithin Granules
    Mineral Water
    Molasses, blackstrap
    Probiotic Cultures
    Soured Dairy Products
    Veggie Juices

    ALKALIZING MINERALS
    Calcium: pH 12
    Cesium: pH 14
    Magnesium: pH 9
    Potassium: pH 14
    Sodium: pH 14


    Although it might seem that citrus fruits would have an acidifying effect on the body, the citric acid they contain actually has an alkalinizing effect in the system.

    Note that a food's acid or alkaline forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of the food itself. For example, lemons are very acidic, however the end products they produce after digestion and assimilation are very alkaline so, lemons are alkaline forming in the body. Likewise, meat will test alkaline before digestion, but it leaves very acidic residue in the body so, like nearly all animal products, meat is very acid forming.

    ACIDIFYING VEGETABLES
    Corn
    Lentils
    Olives
    Winter Squash

    ACIDIFYING FRUITS
    Blueberries
    Canned or Glazed Fruits
    Cranberries
    Currants
    Plums**
    Prunes**

    ACIDIFYING GRAINS, GRAIN PRODUCTS
    Amaranth
    Barley
    Bran, oat
    Bran, wheat
    Bread
    Corn
    Cornstarch
    Crackers, soda
    Flour, wheat
    Flour, white
    Hemp Seed Flour
    Kamut
    Macaroni
    Noodles
    Oatmeal
    Oats (rolled)
    Quinoa
    Rice (all)
    Rice Cakes
    Rye
    Spaghetti
    Spelt
    Wheat Germ
    Wheat

    ACIDIFYING BEANS & LEGUMES
    Almond Milk
    Black Beans
    Chick Peas
    Green Peas
    Kidney Beans
    Lentils
    Pinto Beans
    Red Beans
    Rice Milk
    Soy Beans
    Soy Milk
    White Beans

    ACIDIFYING DAIRY
    Butter
    Cheese
    Cheese, Processed
    Ice Cream
    Ice Milk

    ACIDIFYING NUTS & BUTTERS
    Cashews
    Legumes
    Peanut Butter
    Peanuts
    Pecans
    Tahini
    Walnuts

    ACIDIFYING ANIMAL PROTEIN
    Bacon
    Beef
    Carp
    Clams
    Cod
    Corned Beef
    Fish
    Haddock
    Lamb
    Lobster
    Mussels
    Organ Meats
    Oyster
    Pike
    Pork
    Rabbit
    Salmon
    Sardines
    Sausage
    Scallops
    Shellfish
    Shrimp
    Tuna
    Turkey
    Veal
    Venison

    ACIDIFYING FATS & OILS
    Avacado Oil
    Butter
    Canola Oil
    Corn Oil
    Flax Oil
    Hemp Seed Oil
    Lard
    Olive Oil
    Safflower Oil
    Sesame Oil
    Sunflower Oil

    ACIDIFYING SWEETENERS
    Carob
    Corn Syrup
    Sugar

    ACIDIFYING ALCOHOL
    Beer
    Hard Liquor
    Spirits
    Wine

    ACIDIFYING OTHER FOODS
    Catsup
    Cocoa
    Coffee
    Mustard
    Pepper
    Soft Drinks
    Vinegar

    ACIDIFYING DRUGS & CHEMICALS
    Aspirin
    Chemicals
    Drugs, Medicinal
    Drugs, Psychedelic
    Herbicides
    Pesticides
    Tobacco

    ACIDIFYING JUNK FOOD
    Beer: pH 2.5
    Coca-Cola: pH 2
    Coffee: pH 4


    ** These foods leave an alkaline ash but have an acidifying effect on the body.
    UNKNOWN:
    There are several versions of the Acidic and Alkaline Food chart to be found in different books and on the Internet. The following foods are sometimes attributed to the Acidic side of the chart and sometimes to the Alkaline side. Remember, you don't need to adhere strictly to the Alkaline side of the chart, just make sure a good percentage of the foods you eat come from that side.
    Brazil Nuts
    Brussel Sprouts
    Buckwheat
    Cashews
    Chicken
    Corn
    Cottage Cheese
    Eggs
    Flax Seeds
    Green Tea
    Herbal Tea
    Honey
    Kombucha
    Lima Beans

    Maple Syrup
    Milk
    Nuts
    Organic Milk (unpasteurized)
    Potatoes, white
    Pumpkin Seeds
    Quinoa
    Sauerkraut
    Soy Products
    Sprouted Seeds
    Squashes
    Sunflower Seeds
    Tomatoes
    Yogurt
    * These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease; research is ongoing.
     
  17. Jen

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    Here's a chart that ranks foods from most alkaline to most acidic.
    Ranked Foods: Alkaline to Acidic
    Extremely Alkaline

    Lemons, watermelon.
    Alkaline Forming

    Cantaloupe, cayenne celery, dates, figs, kelp, limes, mango, melons, papaya, parsley, seaweeds, seedless grapes (sweet), watercress.

    Asparagus, fruit juices, grapes (sweet), kiwifruit, passionfruit, pears (sweet), pineapple, raisins, umeboshi plums, and vegetable juices.
    Moderately Alkaline

    Apples (sweet), alfalfa sprouts, apricots, avocados, bananas (ripe), currants, dates, figs (fresh), garlic, grapefruit, grapes (less sweet), guavas, herbs (leafy green), lettuce (leafy green), nectarine, peaches (sweet), pears (less sweet), peas (fresh, sweet), pumpkin (sweet), sea salt (vegetable).

    Apples (sour), beans (fresh, green), beets, bell peppers, broccoli, cabbage, carob, cauliflower, ginger (fresh), grapes (sour), lettuce (pale green), oranges, peaches (less sweet), peas (less sweet), potatoes (with skin), pumpkin (less sweet), raspberries, strawberries, squash, sweet Corn (fresh), turnip, vinegar (apple cider).
    Slightly Alkaline

    Almonds, artichokes (jerusalem), brussel sprouts, cherries, coconut (fresh), cucumbers, eggplant, honey (raw), leeks, mushrooms, okra, olives (ripe), onions, pickles (homemade), radishes, sea salt, spices, tomatoes (sweet), vinegar (sweet brown rice).

    Chestnuts (dry, roasted), egg yolks (soft cooked), essene bread, goat's milk and whey (raw), mayonnaise (homemade), olive oil, sesame seeds (whole), soy beans (dry), soy cheese, soy milk, sprouted grains, tofu, tomatoes (less sweet), and yeast (nutritional flakes).
    Neutral

    Butter (fresh, unsalted), cream (fresh, raw), cow's milk and whey (raw), margine, oils (except olive), and yogurt (plain).
    Moderately Acidic

    Bananas (green), barley (rye), blueberries, bran, butter, cereals (unrefined), cheeses, crackers (unrefined rye, rice and wheat), cranberries, dried beans (mung, adzuki, pinto, kidney, garbanzo), dry coconut, egg whites, eggs whole (cooked hard), fructose, goat's milk (homogenized), honey (pasteurized), ketchup, maple syrup (unprocessed), milk (homogenized).

    Molasses (unsulferd and organic), most nuts, mustard, oats (rye, organic), olives (pickled), pasta (whole grain), pastry (whole grain and honey), plums, popcorn (with salt and/or butter), potatoes, prunes, rice (basmati and brown), seeds (pumpkin, sunflower), soy sauce, and wheat bread (sprouted organic).
    Extremely Acidic

    Artificial sweeteners, beef, beer, breads, brown sugar, carbonated soft drinks, cereals (refined), chocolate, cigarettes and tobacco, coffee, cream of wheat (unrefined), custard (with white sugar), deer, drugs, fish, flour (white, wheat), fruit juices with sugar, jams, jellies, lamb.

    Liquor, maple syrup (processed), molasses (sulphured), pasta (white), pastries and cakes from white flour, pickles (commercial), pork, poultry, seafood, sugar (white), table salt (refined and iodized), tea (black), white bread, white vinegar (processed), whole wheat foods, wine, and yogurt (sweetened).


    More Ranked Foods: Alkaline to Acidic
    Highly Alkaline Forming Foods

    Baking soda, sea salt, mineral water, pumpkin seed, lentils, seaweed, onion, taro root, sea vegetables, lotus root, sweet potato, lime, lemons, nectarine, persimmon, raspberry, watermelon, tangerine, and pineapple.
    Moderately Alkaline Forming Foods

    Apricots, spices, kambucha, unsulfured molasses, soy sauce, cashews, chestnuts, pepper, kohlrabi, parsnip, garlic, asparagus, kale, parsley, endive, arugula, mustard green, ginger root, broccoli, grapefruit, cantaloupe, honeydew, citrus, olive, dewberry, carrots, loganberry, and mango.
    Low Alkaline Forming Foods

    Most herbs, green tea, mu tea, rice syrup, apple cider vinegar, sake, quail eggs, primrose oil, sesame seed, cod liver oil, almonds, sprouts, potato, bell pepper, mushrooms, cauliflower, cabbage, rutabaga, ginseng, eggplant, pumpkin, collard green, pear, avocado, apples (sour), blackberry, cherry, peach, and papaya.
    Very Low Alkaline Forming Foods

    Ginger tea, umeboshi vinegar, ghee, duck eggs, oats, grain coffee, quinoa, japonica rice, wild rice, avocado oil, most seeds, coconut oil, olive oil, flax oil, brussel sprout, beet, chive, cilantro, celery, okra, cucumber, turnip greens, squashes, lettuces, orange, banana, blueberry, raisin, currant, grape, and strawberry.
    Very Low Acid Forming Foods

    Curry, koma coffee, honey, maple syrup, vinegar, cream, butter, goat/sheep cheese, chicken, gelatin, organs, venison, fish, wild duck, triticale, millet, kasha, amaranth, brown rice, pumpkin seed oil, grape seed oil, sunflower oil, pine nuts, canola oil, spinach, fava beans, black-eyed peas, string beans, wax beans, zucchini, chutney, rhubarb, coconut, guava, dry fruit, figs, and dates.
    Low Acid Forming Foods

    Vanilla, alcohol, black tea, balsamic vinegar, cow milk, aged cheese, soy cheese, goat milk, game meat, lamb, mutton, boar, elk, shell fish, mollusks, goose, turkey, buckwheat, wheat, spelt, teff, kamut, farina, semolina, white rice, almond oil, sesame oil, safflower oil, tapioca, seitan, tofu, pinto beans, white beans, navy beans, red beans, aduki beans, lima beans, chard, plum, prune and tomatoes.
    Moderately Acid Forming Foods

    Nutmeg, coffee, casein, milk protein, cottage cheese, soy milk, pork, veal, bear, mussels, squid, chicken, maize, barley groats, corn, rye, oat bran, pistachio seeds, chestnut oil, lard, pecans, palm kernel oil, green peas, peanuts, snow peas, other legumes, garbanzo beans, cranberry, and pomegranate.
    Highly Acid Forming Foods

    Tabletop sweeteners like (NutraSweet, Spoonful, Sweet 'N Low, Equal or Aspartame), pudding, jam, jelly, table salt (NaCl), beer, yeast, hops, malt, sugar, cocoa, white (acetic acid) vinegar, processed cheese, ice cream, beef, lobster, pheasant, barley, cottonseed oil, hazelnuts, walnuts, brazil nuts, fried foods, soybean, and soft drinks, especially the cola type. To neutralize a glass of cola with a pH of 2.5, it would take 32 glasses of alkaline water with a pH of 10.
     
  18. Erik

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    Did you know? The main ingredient in cola soft drinks -phosphoric acid - has a pH of 2.8? To neutralize just one glass, it would take 32 glasses of water with a pH of 7!
     
  19. RpH

    RpH I'm actually educated

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    In vitro?
     
  20. Sunshine

    Sunshine over-caffeinated

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    Were you able to find the test strips at a regular drugstore?
     

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